Wikipedia:WikipediaWeekly/Episode4
Wikipedia Weekly Episode 4 - Advertising on Wikipedia?
The Panel
Currently, It's planned that we make a conference on Skype, which works up to ten folks, but for practical purposes four is about ideal.
Those signing up should be experienced with previous episodes, and be regular listeners of other podcasts.
- Main hosts
- Guest hosts
- Daveydweeb -- I'll hold back on this, to let someone else have a turn if they want one. Add me if there's not enough interest. :)
- --1ne
- Looks like I'll have to be part of Ep 4, then. Again, pending timezones. – Chacor 09:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- -- Zero1328 Talk? 06:50, 1 November 2006 (UTC) - I need to be less shy with talking..
Discussion
What should our main focus be for the week?
Danny's contest is close to being done. JoeSmack Talk(p-review!) 18:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Agenda
This is the basic layout of how the episode is planned to move along.
Time of Recording
Proposed time: Friday UTC 0500 (?)
- Have class on at that time, unfortunately. Any time from 0015 - 0130, or 0715 or later. – Chacor 12:33, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- I'll need to check closer to the date, but this seems fine. Daveydweeb (chat/patch) 09:04, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- That's right when school ends, I'll probably be here ready a half hour or so later if it hasn't started yet. - Zero1328 Talk? 10:14, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Introduce the panel
That'd be the speakers listed above. Each person says what they'd like to about themselves, and we move on.
See the script
News
- School bombing threat
- Jimmy said to mailing list: "The basic background for those who do not know: there was a threat to blow up a school posted on-wiki the other day, Fred communicated the threat to the school, along with IP number."
- From the article: "The threat came to light when an administrator for Wikipedia warned school officials late Sunday or early Monday, Szczepaniak said."
- Study on Wikipedia results showing up in search engines [1]
- In August and September 2006 various bloggers (Nicholas G. Carr, Steve Rubel, Tim Bray, and others) started to notice that Wikipedia often shows up on Google for their searches.
- To research this recent phenomena more throughly I decided to try to do a simple random sampling on whole Wikipedia (together with redirects makes it to ~2.7 million titles) and then try to Google, Yahoo and MSN those articles.
- So, how likely is it? It turns out that it is very likely actually. You have about 81 % chance to get Wikipedia link in top 10 results.
- Hutter Prize via Slashdot (Davey) [2] and prize site [3]
- "The Hutter Prize for Lossless Compression of Human Knowledge, an ongoing challenge to compress a 100-MB excerpt of the Wikipedia, has been awarded for the first time. Alexander Ratushnyak managed to improve the compression factor to 5.86 and will receive a 3,416-Euro award. Being able to compress knowledge well is believed to be related to acting intelligently."
- Intellipedia, the US spy version of Wikipedia [4]
- James Frey, working for Reuters? (Chacor) [5] Reuter's article, with video
Cut items:
- German Wikipedia has a small crisis on their hands when their fifth German writing contest results in a controversial winner. [6]
- Topic number one was Methodical culturalism, an article about contemporary philosophical theory which won the fifth German Wikipedia writing contest. While members of WikiProject philosophy celebrated the jury decision and proposed it as a candidate for featured articles, a storm of protests broke out. Many Wikipedians complained the article was obscure, incomprehensible and irrelevant. The debate became even more emotional when one of the jury members of the contest deserted his colleagues and joined the protesters. He even went so far as to propose the article for deletion on AfD leading to an edit-war and the protection of the article - without the deletion notice. The featured article candidature was cancelled prematurely when the vote count reached 18:30 and the article was moved into the review section. In sum: Wikipedia theater at its best - or worst?
- AOL's Jason Calacanis - Wikipedia leaves $100M on the table (or "PLEASE Jimbo, reconsider--media philanthropy could change the world!").
- Some media outlets have confused this $100 million editorial with the previous $100 million dollar "dream a little" post by Jimbo last week. They are not related whatsoever.
- I was IM'ing w/ Jimmy re this and he says he doesn't recall hearing this "offer" from Calacanis, and that he's making the whole thing up.... nice interesting debate -- Tawker 18:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- Jimbo has posted on his blog about this issue to clear things up.
- I was IM'ing w/ Jimmy re this and he says he doesn't recall hearing this "offer" from Calacanis, and that he's making the whole thing up.... nice interesting debate -- Tawker 18:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- Jason has been emailed about coming on this episode to speak about his proposals.
- Questions?
- Placeholder
- Some media outlets have confused this $100 million editorial with the previous $100 million dollar "dream a little" post by Jimbo last week. They are not related whatsoever.
- Citizendium launches, with a slight hiccup, but it's live.
- Larry Sanger: "Sorry about the launch that wasn't quite. Just as we were launching, I was making requests of the tech team to optimize the wiki, and one of the requests resulted in a database table being blanked! Ouch!"
- Might be nice to do a quick voice interview with Larry on the day after launch.
- Possible questions?
- How did the launch go?
- What to do about pictures and other media?
- How close are we to a public release?
- It has been suggested that content from Citizendium could be copied back into Wikipedia over time and vice versa. What do you think of that idea?
- Do you see Citizendium as an encyclopedia that stands alone, or as an effort to improve the quality of Wikipedia?
- Do you believe Wikipedia and Citizendium could be merged into a single, coherent project? Would that be a good thing?
- You sent an email entitled "A wiki challenge" recently, noting that people haven't yet edited each others' work yet. How have you tried to resolve that problem?
From the Signpost
- Current edition is now online here.
Feedback
If anybody provides some particularly interesting feedback, or one of us has anything cool to say, we'd say it here. Who knows? It might be interesting, if we ever have anything to say. :)
- We've had the suggestion that we write transcripts of each episode.
- Daveydweeb would be happy to do that, in his copious free time.
- We need a little more variety: female voices.
- Uploading OGGs to Commons.
The World According to Wikipedia
This would be a quick, light-hearted discussion of any particularly funny page-rankings we see on The Top 100 pages at Wikipedia. There's at least two or three minutes' worth of humour in that. :)