Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 August 4

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August 4

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Monuments in Nepal

Propose renaming Category:Monuments in Nepal to Category:Lists of monuments in Nepal
Propose merging Category:List of Historical Monuments of Nepal to Category:Lists of monuments in Nepal

Nominator's rationale: The contents are all lists of monuments. Articles on individual notable monuments are in the parent Category:Monuments and memorials in Nepal. – Fayenatic London 16:47, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Northern Pacific Railway stations in Washington (state)

Propose deleting Category:Northern Pacific Railway stations in Washington (state) - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: This category was superseded by Category:Former Northern Pacific Railway stations in Washington (state). After emptying it I tagged it for deletion as routine maintenance (as I have with many others) but was repeatedly reverted by Doncram (talk · contribs), who made various objections on Category talk:Northern Pacific Railway stations in Washington (state). The rationale is clear. The Northern Pacific Railway disappeared in 1970. It doesn't have any stations. WikiProject Trains settled on this categorization scheme in 2016: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains/Archive:_2016#Revisiting_station_categories, though harmonization has taken some time. I'm baffled at Doncram's hostility over this matter, but I'm bringing it here for a wider audience because he's not listening to me. It makes no sense to treat one former railroad differently from a hundred others. Mackensen (talk) 16:33, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Convert to cat-redirect -- I assume there is no scope for expansion even of the former stations target. Since this is a defunct company, we should not have a name for it implying it is current. The successor category might be better expressed as Category:Stations formerly of Northern Pacific Railway in Washington (state). These together might meet Doncram (talk · contribs)'s objection. If he is not willing to be more sensible, some kind of disciplining is needed. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:47, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Peterkingiron: If you're asking whether there are more stations which be categorized in Category talk:Northern Pacific Railway stations in Washington (state) then yes, there probably are. In general we don't categorize former stations by company and state, but there's no intrinsic reason not to. They could be upmerged to Category:Former Northern Pacific Railway stations. Note that this is part of a broader scheme within Category:Former railway stations in the United States by company; if we change one we should change the rest. Mackensen (talk) 17:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Economy, Pennsylvania

Propose merging Category:People from Economy, Pennsylvania to Category:People from Beaver County, Pennsylvania

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Small one county community with just 3 entries. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:34, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment from nominator I uncategorized Milo Lockwood as being 'People from Economy' because his article only states he died there. The consensus is that dying somewhere doesn't automatically make a person from that place and Lockwood's article makes no mention of Economy except for him dying there....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:45, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nazis accused of war crimes

Propose deleting Category:Nazis accused of war crimes - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: I created this category for Nazi war criminals who were never tried for whatever reason (died, lack of political will etc.) but for whom historical consensus has established that they are likely to be guilty of war crimes. As I'm no longer sure that this is a defining characteristic, I've nominated it here. Please count this as a withdrawn nomination because I have no opinion either way. Catrìona (talk) 14:54, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment -- We do not normally allow categories for mere accusations. There is a case for categories for people who died before trial, but cases where there was a lack of political will should not be included. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:54, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Dutch Frisian people

Propose merging Category:Dutch Frisian people to Category:People from Friesland

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OVERLAPCAT, the articles of this category (not the subcat) contain early modern and modern West Frisians while they were concentrated in the nearly mono-ethnic province of Friesland. When merged, the medieval subcategory should be removed from the target category (it could still be linked with a See also note). Marcocapelle (talk) 09:08, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]