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May 23

Category:Baseball personnel

Nominator's rationale: It is unclear how "personnel" is more distinct that "people" and category is small in any case SFB 22:08, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Palestinian executives

Nominator's rationale: No other content other than the merge target. No other country has such a tree and it is unclear what "executive" consists of without the business qualifier SFB 21:15, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Firefighting officers

Nominator's rationale: The current title suggests a container for people, rather than a container for roles as per current content. SFB 20:27, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sporting artists

Nominator's rationale: There is the potential to misinterpret the current title as "artists who also engage in sport". The proposed change unambiguously suggests artists whose subject focus in sports SFB 19:48, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Grutness...wha? 02:05, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose this I see the issue, but "Sporting artist" is the correct and usual term, and "Sports artist" afaik an ugly coinage. A headnote to the cat is sufficient. There are many historical artists who could be added to this category, which is mainly or initially an English one, showing fox hunting, horse racing, cock fights and the like, rather than ball games or athletics, hugely popular from the late 17th to mid 20th centuries. 7/8 in the main category at present are English artists of this type, with more in "Equine artists" sub-cat. There might be a case for splitting off Category:Modern sports artists for people painting racing cars etc., if we had more of them. At present there seems only to be a 1 1/2 line stub on NASCAR specialist Sam Bass (artist). It's a bit hard for modern ones to get notable, as there isn't really critical coverage of this unfashionable area. We don't have a Sports/Sporting art (only Sport in ancient Greek art, which is of course very different), but note the title and terminology in National Sporting Library & Museum - this is in Virginia. Johnbod (talk) 14:16, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Huh? Speaking as someone who works as both an art critic and artist, I've rarely heard the term "sporting artist", but come across the term sports artist frequently. If there is an ugly coinage here, it's the current name. FWIW, "sports artist" gets several times more ghits than "sporting artist") Grutness...wha? 23:02, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People associated with bungee jumping

Nominator's rationale: All those in this category are distinguished bungee jumpers. The proposed is a more natural title for topic, rather than the more nebulous one. SFB 19:35, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Signatories of the Writers and Editors War Tax Protest

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining characteristic. The tax protest in question is itself a redirect. TM 18:33, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose On the contrary, this was a major form of protest for many people who were otherwise not substantially involved in Vietnam war resistance. Joining the protest was an action by which signers publicly identified themselves as war resisters advocating civil disobedience in a highly publicized way. The protest is notable and worthy of an article; it just hasn't been written yet. Daask (talk) 20:01, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, my point is that many, although probably not all, signatories defined themselves as war resisters specifically because of their participation in this protest. Daask (talk) 14:09, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rayne Rice Birds

Nominator's rationale: Defunct baseball team with just one entry and a subcategory. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 17:29, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It has enough topics to keep. This category brings order to the topic and should be kept. If you want Wikipedia to become less organized and harder to use, then delete it. spatms Talk:spatms 17:43, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The category for the 1934 name "Rayne Red Sox" has now been deleted. As that CFD included support for merger to this category, it did not amount to sufficient consensus to delete this one.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 08:24, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:RFC

Nominator's rationale: The concise rationale is: my word, as the category's author, that mistakes were made when naming it, and: my desire, as the category's author, to achieve the best possible corrective action. I was not interested in pursuing any of the "speedy" solutions because thoughtful discussion is needed most in this matter, at this time. Initially, discussion took place here, and is linked for consideration by anyone interested. Two titles emerged in that discussion as possibilities for renaming the category; they are:

Category:Wikipedia requests for comment administration and Category:Wikipedia requests for comment process

Between those two, and others that may be suggested, consensus will determine the best name. The category will be an administration tracking category for pages exclusive to the RfC process that does not commingle itself within content categories, nor its members among non-RfC-specific pages. The main category in its hierarchy will be Category:Wikipedia requests for comment and its main, "non-article", page will be Wikipedia:Requests for comment.

Instead of deleting Category:RFC when the appropriate title is determined, it should be fashioned into a soft redirect to either the renamed category, or to the main category, whichever accords with known best practice. I offer my thanks, in advance, to those who will participate in this discussion and help to best resolve it.--John Cline (talk) 02:59, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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