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February 16

Category:Social development centres in Chile

Nominator's rationale: All the articles are about Jesuit organisations Rathfelder (talk) 23:17, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • No problem. I had hoped that more development centres in Chile would come forth, but then they are more likely interested in Wikipedia in Spanish. There's no need for the new category of Jesuit development centres in Chile, they can just be in the Category:Jesuit development centres. Jzsj (talk) 23:45, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm perfectly happy with that.Rathfelder (talk) 19:33, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: OK but they need a category linking the articles to Chile (Organisations in Chile, Catholic Church in Chile?) Hugo999 (talk) 04:37, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Social development centers

Nominator's rationale: Complete overlap. All the articles are also in the Jesuit development centres‎ category. No article to explain how either category is defined, but it seems a bit clearer to call them Jesuit development centres‎ Rathfelder (talk) 23:15, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I instituted the category because the denomination "charities" implies handouts in the United States, and I hoped that others would redirect their organizations to this more accurate description. But it's not worth arguing, and these can simply be listed in other categories (like Jesuit development centres) without the added denomination of "social development". Jzsj (talk) 23:33, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Echinostomida

Nominator's rationale: Echinostomida is now synonymised to Plagiorchiida, and the category contains only the one re-direction page. Yours Truly, HNdlROdU. Signed, 17:32, 16 February 2018 (UTC).[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Enormous and ill-defined overlap Rathfelder (talk) 17:29, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support. As the editor who created the former, I agree that the latter has a better name. — Sebastian 11:28, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Charities established in 1946

Nominator's rationale: two pages Charities established in ....

On their own they are not very helpful. Do we want a whole category tree like this? Rathfelder (talk) 16:28, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cup of Russia

Nominator's rationale: Consistency with common name of the competition since being renamed the Rostelecom Cup in 2009. Rostelecom Cup is used as the name for the competition by both the ISU (see [2]) and third party news organizations (i.e [3] [4] [5]). RA0808 talkcontribs 15:31, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Leninsky Komsomol class of cargo ships

Nominator's rationale: As per usual category conventions for ship categories, one example among thousands being Category:Iowa-class battleships. 82.39.49.182 (talk) 11:21, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Manufacturing

Nominator's rationale: Production and manufacturing are closely related so it makes sense to have a common Category:Production and manufacturing. It is not clear how subcategory Category:Manufacturing differentiates itself from Category:Production and manufacturing. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:44, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • In common language, services are neither manufactured nor produced, they are offered or provided. The content of both categories seem to be equally skewed towards a goods/industrial context. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:33, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, there are common counterexamples to that assertion. Software goes into production and developers speak of development and production environments. Movies are produced, not manufactured. A Broadway show goes into production and is not manufactured. This terminology seems common, see for instance, Production (economics). Manufacturing creates goods, production creates utility. --Mark viking (talk) 19:04, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- As a historical author writing about the iron industry, I use the two words as antonyms, but frequently have trouble with those who regard them as synonyms. In the iron industry, iron was produced in furnaces and forges (using artificial power), it was then manufactured into nails, locks, hinges, knives, scythes and a host of other goods in a manual process (manufacture). However, I always have to explain they are antonyms, when doing so. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:18, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Weather beacon

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename WP:C2D. I had missed that it was already listed at WP:CFDS. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:54, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: set categories use the plural form, per WP:Category names#General_conventions. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:17, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:UAE Arabian Gulf Cup seasons

Nominator's rationale: Procedural nomination. In January this category was tagged for speedy renaming by @Bijanii after a slow move-war between Bijanii and @UA3.
I have no idea which title is better, but WP:CFDS is inapplicable because the title is clearly controversial, so I list it here without recommendation. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:11, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 11:05, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Valentine's Day food

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining inclusion criteria, for a category that just contains a few red sweets. Ibadibam (talk) 07:45, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted from CfD 2018 February 8 to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:42, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete the current category as the inclusion criteria and the current contents are inappropriate (per NONDEF). No objection to creating a category in the future with tighter inclusion criteria IFF there are sufficient articles that do belong in it. DexDor (talk)

Category:Pseudoconvex minimization

Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article in the three categories jointly. No need to upmerge, the article is already in appropriate categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted from CfD 2018 February 8 to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:40, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to parent categories: I'm pretty sure this one is doomed to never break beyond being a WP:SMALLCAT. Only three entries at present. DonIago (talk) 14:16, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted from CfD 2018 February 7 to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:34, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]