Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 February 16

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February 16

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Cup of Russia

Propose renaming Category:Cup of Russia to Category:Rostelecom Cup

Nominator's rationale: Consistency with common name of the competition since being renamed the Rostelecom Cup in 2009. Rostelecom Cup is used as the name for the competition by both the ISU (see [1]) and third party news organizations (i.e [2] [3] [4]). RA0808 ^talk _contribs 15:31, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Leninsky Komsomol class of cargo ships

Propose renaming Category:Leninsky Komsomol class of cargo ships to Category:Leninsky Komsomol-class cargo ships

Nominator's rationale: As per usual category conventions for ship categories, one example among thousands being Category:Iowa-class battleships. 82.39.49.182 (talk) 11:21, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Manufacturing

Propose merging Category:Manufacturing to Category:Production and manufacturing

Nominator's rationale: Production and manufacturing are closely related so it makes sense to have a common Category:Production and manufacturing. It is not clear how subcategory Category:Manufacturing differentiates itself from Category:Production and manufacturing. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:44, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment One can produce goods and services and one can manufacture goods, but one doesn't manufacture services. For instance, I produce software and put it into production as a service to others, but calling this manufacturing would be stilted. At least from an economics POV, Category:Manufacturing should be a subcat of Category:Production and Category:Production and manufacturing as synonyms really only makes sense in a goods/industrial context. --Mark viking (talk) 13:52, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Weather beacon

Propose renaming Category:Weather beacon to Category:Weather beacons

Nominator's rationale: set categories use the plural form, per WP:Category names#General_conventions. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:17, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support This looks like an uncontroversial move, as there are multiple exemplars of beacons in the cat. --Mark viking (talk) 03:57, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Grutness...wha? 06:21, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. It is a set category. Oculi (talk) 10:00, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:UAE Arabian Gulf Cup seasons

Propose renaming Category:UAE Arabian Gulf Cup seasons to Category:UAE League Cup seasons

Nominator's rationale: Procedural nomination. In January this category was tagged for speedy renaming by @Bijanii after a slow move-war between Bijanii and @UA3.

I have no idea which title is better, but WP:CFDS is inapplicable because the title is clearly controversial, so I list it here without recommendation. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:11, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support – we have UAE Arabian Gulf Cup which redirects to UAE League Cup; this redirect is supported by the move review of Jan 2018 which resulted in UAE Arabian Gulf League being redirected to UAE Pro-League. So there is precedence for dropping 'Arabian Gulf'. Oculi (talk) 10:37, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 11:05, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy suppport per C2D, to match parent article name. Giant Snowman 11:06, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Valentine's Day food

Propose deleting Category:Valentine's Day food - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining inclusion criteria, for a category that just contains a few red sweets. Ibadibam (talk) 07:45, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Not just a random collection of red or pink food; current included articles do have some real world association with the holiday. Has potential for expansion. ANDROS¹³³⁷ _TALK 12:54, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - I was a bit hesitant on this one but, per Andros, the articles in here seem to have a concrete connection and one can imagine additional pages like boxed chocolates being added. Chetsford (talk) 02:56, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete, in article Valentine's Day there is no section about food and the articles in this category don't mention any sources related to Valentine's Day either, which makes it rather questionable. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:56, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, Valentine's Day is mentioned in all three current articles. Read the articles for yourself. ANDROS¹³³⁷_TALK 15:26, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Sure, but I was referring to sources, not to the article texts. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:54, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
delete I read the sources in the three articles, and found them unconvincing. They are not like a box of chocolates. Mangoe (talk) 19:41, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted from CfD 2018 February 8 to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:42, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pseudoconvex minimization

Propose deleting Category:Pseudoconvex functions
Propose deleting Category:Pseudoconvex minimization
Propose deleting Category:Pseudolinear minimization

Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article in the three categories jointly. No need to upmerge, the article is already in appropriate categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted from CfD 2018 February 8 to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:40, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Mathematics has been notified[5].
Delete and upmerge the one article Linear-fractional programming to Category:Generalized convexity. The smallcat guide is pretty convincing here, and at least in the near future, I cannot see these cats being expanded much. --Mark viking (talk) 03:54, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Songs from Carousel (musical)

Propose merging Category:Songs from Carousel (musical) to Category:Songs from musicals

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to parent categories: I'm pretty sure this one is doomed to never break beyond being a WP:SMALLCAT. Only three entries at present. DonIago (talk) 14:16, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted from CfD 2018 February 7 to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:34, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Very weak delete - I'm actually quite surprised there's no article for a couple of the other songs in the musical (notably June Is Bustin' Out All Over, currently a redirect). If merged, articles will also need to be added to the appropriate Rodgers and Hammerstein parents. I note that fully a quarter of the categories in the "by musical" tree have three or fewer articles. Are you regarding this as a test case? Grutness...wha? 01:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Addendum: I've created a category Category:Songs from Rodgers and Hammerstein musicals which would make a more appropriate merge target. Grutness...wha? 06:19, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]