Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 January 4

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January 4

Category:Monika Kørra

Propose deleting Category:Monika Kørra - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category containing only the eponymous topic. —swpb^{T go beyond} 22:41, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pedals

Propose deleting Category:Pedals - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Scope unclear; only one member. —swpb^{T go beyond} 22:30, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are now 7 members about different types of foot-operated devices. LaundryPizza03 (talk) 00:20, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Probable delete Whilst I can accept that there might be a need for a category 'about' pedals, these articles are all about equipment which happen to use/include a pedal. Twiceuponatime (talk) 10:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Birds of São Tomé and Príncipe

Propose merging Category:Birds of São Tomé and Príncipe to Category:Birds of the Gulf of Guinea
Propose merging Category:Mammals of São Tomé and Príncipe to Category:Mammals of Sub-Saharan Africa
Propose merging Category:Birds of Annobón to Category:Birds of the Gulf of Guinea

Nominator's rationale: That, for example, common moorhen or fallow deer are found on these islands is non-defining for those species. Example of previous similar CFD: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 December 25. DexDor^(talk) 19:56, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Upmerge per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:36, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American labor leaders

Propose merging Category:American labor leaders to Category:American labor unionists

Nominator's rationale: This category represents an unnecessary distinction between labor leaders and rank and file members ~~that does exist for any other nationality~~. Notable individual leadership positions should be subcategorized. TM 14:51, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. —swpb^{T go beyond} 19:30, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

keep Nomination is factually false. See Category:Trade union leaders for similar categories for other countries. There is a difference between union rank and file and leaders as anyone knowledgeable of the subject would know. Hmains (talk) 00:40, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've struck a portion of my rationale, thank you for pointing that out. However, no one is notable for simply being a member of a trade union. What is a trade union leader, anyway? Is anyone who is in any leadership position considered a leader? The distinction is unclear and unhelpful.--TM 03:13, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional characters who can manipulate time and space

Propose deleting Category:Fictional characters who can manipulate time and space - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Arbitrary and vague category. The notice reads "Must be a defining trait - Characters with access to vast powers (i.e. magical spells, advanced technology, genetic engineering, etc.) who are theoretically capable of this superhuman feature or ability - but whom have neither made regular use, nor provided a notable example, of this extraordinary or supernatural feat - are not listed here." Being "theoretically capable" sounds like if they "can". What is "regular use"? What's the cut-off?

The category explanation says: "fictional characters who can create, shape and manipulate time and space; this includes physics distortion, reality warping, and time manipulation, or any related ability to control the workings of the universe at both the supergalactic and subatomic levels". So it's again about characters who not only "theoretically" (I love it that it's about fictional characters that theoretically can do something) have time and space altering powers, but have done so in the works that they've appeared in. Also, time and space; do these characters all have the powers to manipulate both? Do we need two subcategories? soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 12:27, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, the intended scope of this category is unclear. It might also overlap with Category:Fictional characters with gravity abilities. What we do not have, though, is Category:Fictional characters with time travel abilities for time travel as a superpower. LaundryPizza03 (talk) 14:20, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, the child Category:Video game characters who can manipulate time and space has been nominated for merge, see this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:36, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Muttahida Qaumi Movement MPs

Propose renaming Category:Muttahida Qaumi Movement MPs to Category:Muttahida Qaumi Movement MNAs

Nominator's rationale: this is a subcat of Category:Members of the National Assembly of Pakistan, normally abbreviated as "MNA", e.g. in Category:MNAs of the National Assembly of Pakistan by term and its subcats. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:35, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Muttahida Qaumi Movement MPs can accommodate bios related to MQM MNA's, Senators as well MPAs (Member of the provincial assembly) while Cat:Muttahida Qaumi Movement MNAs can only accommodate MNA's belonging to MQM which is not very large in size. --Saqib (talk) 12:49, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Saqib: we already have Category:Muttahida Qaumi Movement politicians as a catch-all categ. We don't need another one.

This one is a subcat of Category:Members of the National Assembly of Pakistan, so it is set up to be for MNAs only. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:40, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PS I just checked Category:Muttahida Qaumi Movement MPs. All but one of the 24 articles in the category are MNAs (the exception is Sohail Mashadi). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:48, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]