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Evolution News & Science Today

If anyone is interested, I added one of their articles today. There´s more, just... too many:[1]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:28, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note for the unwary (like me) – that's a link to one of the Discovery Institute's websites promoting intelligent design, despite the innocuous title. . . dave souza, talk 10:56, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if we can include all sources like this one? This is obviously not a typical newspaper. I guess that since this is not a mainspace article, maybe it's acceptable. To summarize the above, it's a creationist rant promoting a mob conspiracy theory and attacking particular editors, because they are unhappy that Wikipedia does not promote the ID movement... —PaleoNeonate20:43, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Question is, it it "press coverage"? These are self-published webpages with misleading names, part of the intelligent design movement promoting their cause, authored by Discovery Institute essayist David Klinghoffer. You've now given them an outlet, misrepresenting them as "the press", so expect more and more. Don't know if that's the purpose of these Wikipedia pages. . . dave souza, talk 10:56, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you´ll take my word that my intention is not to misrepresent them as "the press". IMO "press coverage" covers a lot these days, and even classic "press" contains a lot of crap. Roots in print media (like had a paper edition but not any longer) is obviously not a necessary criteria for inclusion here.
My "angle" is that this is a reasonably interesting item for the readers of this page, any item here "gives an outlet" to whatever they´re from, that can´t be helped. This is not article space, "reputation for factchecking" etc is of course welcome but far from necessary. Bring us your WP:DAILY MAIL, your Breitbart, etc. I´m not sure this counts as SPS or not, that´s a valid point. Of course it comes from the DI, but is that SPS by default?
I missed that David Klinghoffer has an article, that supports the case for inclusion IMO. Related discussion at Talk:Intelligent_design#Recent_attempts_to_add_a_.22pressbox.22_on_this_talkpage Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:33, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Answering here to a point made at the other page (the discussion should happen here): it's a somewhat fuzzy term in this day and age: precisely and we should not promote this confusion. Self published blogs are not reliable sources. Those of a propaganda organization even less so... Do we really want to collect fringe Wikipedia-bashing and editor-attacking blog posts? —PaleoNeonate15:40, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And it´s not obvious to me that this is a "self published blog". DI mouthpiece obviously, but that´s not the same thing. Fringe Wikipedia-bashing has a place on this page, to some extent. It´s part of coverage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:02, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]