Module talk:Iraqi insurgency detailed map

Page date is out of date in Template "Iraqi insurgency detailed map"

It is not clear whether "Page Date" applies to the map itself, but otherwise the map is undated. It is important to know the "as of" of the map. It is best not to have to resort to the Archives to guess at the "official" date. Note: Since the status of all locations cannot be realistically know in "real time," there is obviously some art to picking a date, if date of last entry is not deemed "best." --- Thanks, PNA

YBŞ and PKK Controlled Areas

Several areas shown on the map as controled by the Kurdistan Regional Government are actually under the control of the PKK and allied militias (Sinjar Resistance Units, ect). This groups hold the town of Sinjar and the surrounding area as well as an area near Qandil. They act in opposition to the KRG.XavierGreen (talk) 17:49, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

This is true. However, we do not have an appropriate color for them, and we want to make the map simpler. Also, force for control are more spotty. TheNavigatrr (talk) 21:38, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

So pick a color, orange for instance.XavierGreen (talk) 20:02, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

We need to keep in mind that there is also a combined Syrian-Iraqi map, and Syrian YPG and YBŞ should have a similar yellow color on it.

So it would be more logic to change the color of the KDP-KRG to a more yellow-greenish color.

Maybe we have to change Turkey allied KDP-KRG to Greenish Yellow, keep PUK-KRG to the present/ normal yellow and change YBS and YPG to a more orange-like yellow?

But with YBŞ allied more to the Iraqi federal goverment, it is strange to represent the same as Turkey allied KDP-KRG.--Niele~enwiki (talk) 13:55, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

PKK doesn't control territory, they just have a presence. But I personally think YBS should have an orange collor. KDP some greenish, PUK and Gorran yellow. We must do immediately. Beshogur (talk) 09:49, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Both KDP-, PUK Peshmergas and unaffiliated ones fight for Kurdistan Region, thus my opinion is that it would be wrong to differentiate between these. Also, bear in mind that the "border" between these two parties is very blurry - perhaps even impossible to find. KDP is present in Kirkuk city with PUK, while PUK has some Peshmergas in Sinjar with KDP. KDP control some towns in Kirkuk, for example Altun Kupri, which has no PUK presence. So, we would just make the map more complicated. --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 19:54, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Concerning YBS, perhaps a solution could be to change the color for SDF in the Syrian map as well? --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 19:59, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Desert border crossings

Are we now marking all military bases on border as "border crossing". From what I know border crossings are official crossings that are are overseen by some force as only official point of entry for civilians. Umm Jaris, Tal Sufouq, Tawsin, Tarifoa or Baktal are not border crossings. They are former Iraqi border guards bases that are now either occupied by Peshmerga, PMU or no one. EllsworthSK (talk) 19:11, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Orange dots?

What are the orange dots in Ninevah Province supposed to represent? 70.59.227.82 (talk) 16:18, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

This is the Ezidixan autonomous region in West Sinjar administered by the Ezidixan People’s Council (EPC) and controlled by YBS and HPG units and was established with the help of Syrian YPG back in 2014.

It officially declared autonomy under Iraqi federal law this summer. It fought against Barzani (and Turkey-supported) Rojava Peshmerga in Sinune a year ago, preventing KRG from entering west-Sinjar.--Niele~enwiki (talk) 09:18, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Desperate need to split KDP and PUK control colours.

The map in northern Iraq has become unmappable without seperating PUK and KDP control. Without this the situation becomes un-understandable and misleading for people watching the map.

I personally think: - KDP should be a greenish yellow - EPC (YBS/HPG) should be same yellow as Syrian YPG as they are supported and established by them. - PUK needs to be an orangy yellow as they are at this moment closer to Iraqi government.

But without splitting KDP and PUK we will get completely stuck in trying to map the new situation.--Niele~enwiki (talk) 09:26, 19 October 2017 (UTC)