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Citation Necessary?

Can someone provide a citation to support this sentence?:

 Because VRRP fixed problems with the HSRP protocol, Cisco began using VRRP instead, while still claiming it as its own.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.67.97.133 (talk) 02:44, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply] 

Strong bias in history section

This section is poorly worded, lopsided and contains several statements of either a speculative nature, or else which need to be backed up by appropriate citations.

  • Because VRRP fixed problems with the HSRP protocol[citation needed]
  • Cisco informed the OpenBSD developers that it would enforce its patent on HSRP[citation needed]
  • Cisco's position may have been due to their lawsuit with Alcatel[speculation?]
  • Cisco's licensing terms prevented an open-source VRRP implementation[citation needed]
  • They designed CARP to use cryptography.[citation needed]

2001:4D68:2002:100:0:0:0:110 (talk) 23:06, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just rewrote the section. I think I addressed "poorly worded" and "lopsided". The concerns over missing citations and speculation remain (all except one). I updated the bullet list above to reflect the latest wording. The eliminated concern was:

  • To avoid infringing the HSRP patent, they ensured their idea for CARP was fundamentally different[citation needed]

The new wording doesn't attribute intent, so we no longer need a citation. I replaced that sentence with:

  • OpenBSD focuses on security.

I believe this to be a generally accepted fact. It is stated in the second paragraph of our OpenBSD article. Alas our article lacks an inline citation for this claim. Finding a citation isn't worth the effort (at least, not to me) because this isn't a statement that is likely to get challenged. If anyone disagrees, please flag it or find a citation.

Black Walnut (talk) 10:40, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This might help in the section above (Strong bias in history section). It is related to Cisco's patent claims on HSRP / VRRP.

https://www.ietf.org/ietf-ftp/IPR//VRRP-CISCO

https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/19/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.253.195.17 (talk) 22:45, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]