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This page contains links to promote a website https://www.virtualtourist.com/ 201.191.198.186 (talk) 00:14, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- No it does not. It contains citations, some of which are to that site.-- Toddy1 (talk) 04:48, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Why is the article name still Dnipropetrovsk???
The city has been offcically renamed, and the changes have already taken effect: http://zakon2.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/1375-19 (Ukrainian). I see the discussion on this page below, but I can't find any conclusions on the discussion. --Maximaximum (talk) 08:12, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- The discussion and the conclusions are exactly five sections above this one.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:15, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- Here is an English language article on non Ukrainian website that uses new name Dnipro http://www.esctoday.com/136663/eurovision-2017-kyiv-set-host-contest — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.197.19.78 (talk) 15:08, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Usage of Dnipro
Dear all,
Dnipro has been already mentioned in few news articles:
- http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/economic/348766.html
- http://uatoday.tv/society/19-ukrainian-soldiers-injured-at-the-front-transported-to-dnipro-hospitals-671920.html
One can argue that it's Ukrainian media. However, I don't think that foreign media track changes of Ukrainian cities' names. 170.178.162.125 (talk) 07:13, 15 June 2016 (UTC)A
Dnepropetrovsk International Airport knows better :)-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:00, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- And notice that Dnepropetrovsk International Airport has flights to "Kiev". There is no rush to change names. Wikipedia is not a current events blog. It is an encyclopedia that tracks human knowledge and allows users to find information about names and places that they might encounter in other reading. If their other reading is talking about Dnipropetrovsk, or even Dnepropetrovsk, then Wikipedia must make it easy for them to find that information. --Taivo (talk) 01:45, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- That's not the case, as it should be renamed separately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tudy sudy (talk • contribs) 09:13, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Also here is an English language article on non Ukrainian website that uses the new name Dnipro
Usage of new name takes off so it is now appropriate to change the name of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.197.104.119 (talk) 09:55, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
- Usage may be "taking off", but it's still not common yet. There is no point to rushing into changing just because you've got ants in your pants. --Taivo (talk) 01:40, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Old or new name?
Guys here pointed out to the spelling as 'Dnipropetrovsk' rahter than 'Dnipro'. Why then article about renamed AFTER Dnipro, city, Horishny Plavny, are with new name, but Dnipro - with old one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horishni_Plavni I'm not even mentioned error in existing name of article - it always was DnEpropetrivsk, as pointed Toddy1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.127.46.4 (talk) 08:23, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
'Dnipro' usage examples
I'd like to start the list of 'Dnipro' name usage examples and invite other users to add to the list. Tried to gather sources not from Ukraine, as someone wished (though plenty of web-cites in .ua domen [eg. IT companies with international connections] have influence on other www segments). I know, you can add more reliable sources. -- Ата (talk) 14:17, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Eurovision topic:
- https://oikotimes.com/2016/06/30/eurovision-2017-dnipro-is-the-second-city-submitting-hosting-bid/
- http://esctoday.com/136676/eurovision-2017-dnipro-officially-applies-host-contest
- http://info-europa.com/uncategorized/eurovision-2017-dnipro-is-the-second-city-submitting-hosting-bid/3911
- https://escviews.wordpress.com/2016/06/17/focus-2017-dnipro/
- http://eurovoix.com/2016/07/12/esc17-ntu-broadcast-2-hour-debate-eurovision-host-city/
Time and date web-sites:
Economic news:
- http://www.businessnewsworld.com/news/dnipro-city-council-places-uah-600-mln-on-deposit-accounts-at-ukrgasbank.html
- http://www.breakingnewspoint.com/story/3150688/dnipro-city-council-places-uah-600-mln-on-deposit-accounts-at-ukrgasbank.html
- http://www.financenewscoverage.com/news/dnipro-city-council-places-uah-600-mln-on-deposit-accounts-at-ukrgasbank.html (several others on the topic)
Ordinary usage by people:
- https://angel.co/main-technologist-bee-farm-manager-grand-impex-company-dnipro-city-ukraine
- https://lookatthesescenes.com/2013/02/18/uk-raine-ing-flares-in-dnipro/
- http://www.daxx.com/view/daxx-software-development-teams-dnipropetrovsk
-- Ата (talk) 14:17, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- I looked at one of those websites - it got its content by copying from other websites, and then putting the words "read the full article on...".-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:59, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- This is by no means a compendium of current English usage. As Toddy points out, in many (most) cases you have listed, this is just cut and paste usage from a single source. You have to do more than just do a Google search and listing links. You have to actually read and evaluate each source. By requiring unique sources, your list of Eurovision articles is reduced to one as well as your list of economic articles. Indeed, in both of these cases even, the underlying source for the usage isn't actually an English source, but a Ukrainian one that the English source simply copies. --Taivo (talk) 07:47, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
- May I suggest that if people are just copying text without changing the city name then they are ok with it? --Ата (talk) 08:08, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
- This is by no means a compendium of current English usage. As Toddy points out, in many (most) cases you have listed, this is just cut and paste usage from a single source. You have to do more than just do a Google search and listing links. You have to actually read and evaluate each source. By requiring unique sources, your list of Eurovision articles is reduced to one as well as your list of economic articles. Indeed, in both of these cases even, the underlying source for the usage isn't actually an English source, but a Ukrainian one that the English source simply copies. --Taivo (talk) 07:47, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Some more:
- http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/alexander-j-motyl/ukraine-winning-linguistic-battle-front — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.142.79.165 (talk) 15:59, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
The official Eurovision website uses Dnipro now too [1], and Interfax uses it as well [2] --BLACK FUTURE (tlk2meh) 18:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)