Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Enigma software group
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Corporate vanity page of corporation that fails to satisfy WP:CORP. Valrith 19:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - Seven employees, traded on OTCBB, and only one obscure product. That article, SpyHunter, should also be deleted per WP:CORP. --Afed 19:45, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - Article created by company related editor. NPOV! --Bill.matthews 15:22, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- Undelete - Our company is relevant if you refer to WP:CORP you will see the first criteria for corporations is that the company should be "the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the company itself" that is the case with our company as we have been written up multiple times by leading publications there is even a link to a full page article in PC Magazine on this page. Additionally this is a publicly traded company with investors listed on the Nasdaq OTCBB I don't see why there should even be a debate at all on this see the third criteria on WP:CORP. --enigmasoftwaregroup 15:22, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- In regard to the PC Magazine article - it's about your SpyHunter software program, not your company. So there isn't even one published work in evidence, let alone multiple works. There are thousands (tens of thousands?) of publicly traded companies, which is why you don't see that in the criteria. And since the OTCBB is not an index, the third point of the criteria doesn't apply to you either. Valrith 20:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- You are correct on point #3. However, Enigma Software Group does not fall under the deletion rule you pointed out. According to the rules on page you referenced:... "A company or corporation is notable if it meets any of the following criteria:" We clearly meet the criteria on point #1. In regard to your comment that there is not one piece of published evidence talking about our company I will refer you to these articles which talk about Enigma Software Group the company. http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,112146/article.html http://antivirus.about.com/b/a/083597.htm and http://www.latimes.com/technology/chi-0607310091jul31,1,5430030.column?coll=la-utilities-technology
- I think my last comment clearly closes the debate and there is no reason to discuss this further, I am removing the deletion heading.
- The first article mentions Enigma in passing in a single sentence near the end. The second is a single paragraph about an ad campaign for SpyHunter. The third is again a single mention of Enigma in a single sentence near the end. These are all trivial, failing the notability requirements. Valrith 21:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- Valrith you are not being fair here, nor are you abiding by the very rules that you pointed out. According to the rules it is the publication that should not be trivial. The publications I referenced are not trivial they are major publications. Additionaly the rules go on to say that a trivial mention would be to "simply report extended shopping hours or the publications of telephone numbers and addresses in business directories". Again that is clearly not the case here. It is like you are fabricating rules to defend your position. There is no rule that says the entire article has to be about the company. Our company clearly falls under wikipedia's criteria of a notable corporation under the first point.
- The first article mentions Enigma in passing in a single sentence near the end. The second is a single paragraph about an ad campaign for SpyHunter. The third is again a single mention of Enigma in a single sentence near the end. These are all trivial, failing the notability requirements. Valrith 21:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- In regard to the PC Magazine article - it's about your SpyHunter software program, not your company. So there isn't even one published work in evidence, let alone multiple works. There are thousands (tens of thousands?) of publicly traded companies, which is why you don't see that in the criteria. And since the OTCBB is not an index, the third point of the criteria doesn't apply to you either. Valrith 20:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)