Talk:Deep structure and surface structure

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the sentences "Pat loves Chris" and "Chris is loved by Pat" do not have the same meaning. the first sentence is an action. It just denotes that there is an action and the input of that object is Chris. it doesnt expose the concrete function or from an Observers perspective Pat can accept Chris as an input to the concept. The second sentence denotes Chris as an output. the action gave an output of Chris. this exposes a concrete function or from the Observers perspective, by observing the concrete function it can be noted that Chris is an output of the function. I would argue that this example should be re-written. Trivnew (talk) 20:19, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but passivization is the standard example. Replacing it wih something else suggests you disagree with the whole idea, which is not the right thing to do in an encyclopedia. It would probably be best to use the original examples and add references to them in the original article(s). Rp (talk) 07:37, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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This page is terribly confusing. Could we just stick to the facts?

This page is really a load of garbage. I like Chomsky's views politically, but this is really just a lot of unverifiable bollocks. I am sorry if my language is wrong but it needs a warning to say watch out ORIGINAL RESEARCH HERE or am I just crazy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.233.42 (talk) 00:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inter-cultural communication

I'm pretty sure that the stuff about inter-cultural communication is complete bunk, if anyone else could look into this that would be great, but I'm pretty sure that cultural differences do not affect the deep nor surface structure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daemonax (talk • contribs) 09:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The whole section about inter-cultural communication is OR. Moreover it has nothing to do with the deep structure in the sense of Noam Chomsky. I am deleting the whole section. --Georgius (talk) 09:56, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure you did the right thing. While you and I only know Chomsky's notion of deep structure, the deleted text was apparently about a notion in anthropology, and judging by my first try with Google it is indeed an established notion there. So we may need two content pages and a disambiguation page. Rp (talk) 20:48, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the present form the article mentions the use of the term "deep structure" in fields other than grammar. However the deleted section does not cite any sources and is OR. That was the main reason for deletion. Anyone can recover the section from the history and edit it to conform to Wikipedia standards.--Georgius (talk) 13:21, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Linguists or academics who are still using deep structure in their theory.

I think it would be pertinent to list some notable academics who still use or support deep structure in their work and/or theories. If nobody is then I think that fact should be noted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.59.138 (talk) 08:56, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Title/redirect issues

We have this article on deep structure (which inevitably touches on surface structure as well), whereas Surface structure redirects to Transformational grammar. For symmetry, what about: (A) redirecting surface structure to this article instead, and possibly also (B) renaming this article Deep structure and surface structure (with necessary adjustments to the text)? W. P. Uzer (talk) 06:37, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]