Help talk:Getting started/Archive 1

Archive 1

Wikipedia:Plain_and_simple

Should this link be added to the Getting Started page? Wikipedia:Plain_and_simple -- Grantbow (talk) 01:51, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

It was recently removed after begin recently added - but I would support it being reinstated.Moxy (talk) 02:21, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

To me this is quite an important page. A discussion in the context of the Wikipedia:Help_Project might be useful rather than randomly merging with another page as was suggested recently in the edit history. Grantbow (talk) 20:55, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Format

I am going to try again over the next few days to format the page again so there is uniformity.Moxy (talk) 22:54, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2014

Muhammadshahzadkhan (talk) 16:03, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2014

The main road in Brakpan is Voortrekker road and not Prince George street as stated in your article 197.78.233.157 (talk) 19:09, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Getting started. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. --ElHef (Meep?) 19:21, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Chinese Medal Cloud and Banner

In 1945 I was a Marine stationed on Okinawa when our outfit was ordered to china. Our mission was to participate in the occupation of Northern China. When we arrived in China we rode by train to Peking China and we were stationed just outside Peking. General Chang Ki Scek awarded our outfit, The Cloud and Banner for our participation in the occupation of Northern China. Our Commander (A colonel) received the medal for the unit. Does this medal only go to the Commander or to the entire Marine Unit? J C Crews≈ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.202.219.30 (talk) 10:54, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

This isn't a good place to ask questions like this one. I suggest you try the Humanities reference desk, and some of the volunteers there may know where to look this up. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:49, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2014

The bio should read "Turkish intervention of Cyprus". The word "INVASION" is incorrect. Thank you. 77.92.23.83 (talk) 08:30, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Getting started. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:33, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2015

<<long post removed>> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashfaq Mohamed (talk • contribs) 16:15, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:34, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2015

I have an original disk of Reader Rabbit in my hands. It says copyright 1984 not 1986. I have a picture of the disk to sell it on eBay. Learning Company has been around since at least 1982. 98.208.106.112 (talk) 19:42, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Getting started. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. --I am k6ka ^{Talk to me!} _{See what I have done} 20:08, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

A link to the Images needing articles page

Please feel free to comment at Wikipedia talk:Community portal#A link to the Images needing articles page.

Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:40, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

How to work here

I have create a page about a village but it shows my username as title. What should I do?? D'Nesh (talk) 18:37, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:How to create a page goes through the process. But for new articles I would strongly suggest the article wizard at Wikipedia:Article wizard. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 18:51, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Introductions section

Introductory editing tutorials

These tutorials explain how to edit
with wiki markup (Wikipedia's source code)
and with VisualEditor (a user-friendly interface).

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Starting introduction
Policies and Guidelines

Editing
Referencing
Images
Tables

Editing
Referencing
Images
Tables

Talk pages
Navigating Wikipedia
Manual of Style
Conclusion

The #Introduction section currently duplicates the information give in {{intro to box}} template. What do people think about removing the #Introduction section, just leaving the {{intro to box}} template?

Additionally, the stacking of the {{intro to box}} template straight under the video looks a little odd to me. What about right-aligning it in the #Tutorials section? T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 11:03, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

The problem is that this page is for new people....the template explains nothing...just links. What should be asked is do we need the template...that just repeats links with no description of what is what-- Moxy (talk) 15:51, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

That's a good point. I see how the lists of subsections for each tutorial give a bit more information on what you're in for before you click through, particularly for a complete beginner. Sidenote: listing the number of subsections (a four part guide to...) is surely unnecessary, since the subsections are then listed immediately after. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 22:37, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

I feel we should keep both: the "introductions" text section for crystal clarity and detailed descriptions, and the "Into to box" as a pleasant graphical alternate description. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 23:56, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2016

Sewak nathupur (talk) 04:36, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

 Not done as you have not requested a change, but I suspect you are in the wrong place, as this page is only to discuss improvements to Help:Getting started. - Arjayay (talk) 11:05, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

What about semiprotecting this talk-page?

At WP:RFP, the following request was made, and declined by me.

"Indefinite semi-protection: For some reason, and despite notices on this page, new users seem to frequently post to this Talk page which is intended for discussion of improvements to the Help:Getting started page, not as a place to request help. Please semi-protect indefinitely. General Ization ^Talk 05:39, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Declined And the newbies are trying to get started and are looking for help; after all it is in good faith. If they make a mistake and use the wrong page, so what? Graciously revert and point them to the right page, try to be helpful and welcoming. Lectonar (talk) 20:27, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

That's just lovely, and happens to be exactly what I would do, but I am not the only person who deals with these edits (and am not interested in making it my mission here). Other editors simply revert them, leaving the newbie's question unanswered; and/or the question will sit for a period of time because no one is actively watching that Talk page. Protecting this page wouldn't penalize for or prevent anyone from seeking help with their good faith questions; it would simply force them to read the content on the page and post the question in a location where it is likely to be answered. Please give this a reconsideration. General Ization ^Talk 20:38, 6 March 2016 (UTC)"

What do people think: is semiprotection a solution for the problem, is it necessary at all, is a more welcoming attitude perhaps a way forward? Lectonar (talk) 21:08, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

For some reason... Background is here, together with the question about how to handle this talk page. When the welcome notification linked to Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia, the corresponding talk page was eventually redirected to the Teahouse. No-one there has yet said if they favour such a redirection. If you look at the history of either of the talk pages you see that new editors add a wide variety of things: no doubt we'd mostly agree that a newbie's request for help on editing Wikipedia should receive a helpful answer, wherever posted; but many of the contributions (example below) don't seem to come into this category, and TBH may not be worth spending much effort on: Noyster (talk), 00:06, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

A redirect does not work in this case because of the way the people are getting here. -- Moxy (talk) 03:21, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Support indefinite or extended (several weeks? months?) semi-protection. It's just ridiculous what's going on here and how often it happens, and most of the newbies' test posts or ask posts here aren't in any way answerable at all. (It's so easy for them to not even look at what page they're on, smash their keyboard and save and never come back, I'm not going to spend even three minutes to come up with a "useful" response for them.) — Jeraphine Gryphon ^(talk) 07:02, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Support indefinite protection as well, though I don't know if it clashes with any existing policies. I actually feel it may help new users, by instead of clicking "edit" without reading the top messageboxes and getting reverted, they may be more likely to read the messagebox contents and find the help or test pages that they're really looking for. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 10:25, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Support indefinite protection --Moxy (talk) 01:45, 8 March 2016 (UTC)