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Biased

Whole article is based on the Sunni sources and point of view without including Shia one at all. Rather the Shia's are biased towards the Sahaba's (Radi Allahu 'Anhum).

Ahmadi view

User:Khestwol, I'm not sure how my edit was undue. First note that Ahmadiyya qualifies at least as a significant minority per description here WP:UNDUE. Secondly, WP:UNDUE appears to be aligned towards fair representations of "theories". The fact that Ahmadis consider companions of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a sahabah is not a theory. A better guideline is perhaps WP:RNPOV, which sets an example of how religion based articles should be treated: "Certain Frisbeetarianists (such as Rev. Carlin) believe This and That...", which is exactly how I edited the article. The article gives a descriptive paragraph on sahabah and attempts to show differences between Sunnis and Shias. Adding that "Ahmadis additionally refer to the companions of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as sahaba" fits in perfectly with the theme in discussion.--Peaceworld 14:04, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Peaceworld111. If you can get a consensus here to add that view right into the lede, I will have no objection. But at the moment I am opposing adding that, simply because I do not think that a view held by only 0.5% (or less) of all Muslims has a WP:DUE weight to be mentioned in the lede. Academic sources don't give as much weight to Ahmadi views as much as they give to Sunni and Shia views when discussing Islamic concepts. Hope this helps. Regards, Khestwol (talk) 15:18, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
User:Khestwol, please don't simply enforce a consensus, particularly to this somewhat incomplete and badly written article with almost zero academic sources which therefore will probably not itself garner sufficient editors to hold a consensus. Please correct yourself, Ahmadis represent roughly 1%, which corresponds to 10-20 million adherents and is therefore sufficiently significant for its distinctive views to be mentioned in the article. The lede is indeed the correct place, which as I said earlier is the only reasonable place that fits the context.--Peaceworld 16:14, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmadis are not Muslims and they should rather be called Quadiyannis.They are derailing the Muslim Ummah.You should consult various refutations written against this deviant group.Even considering them minorities is not right as they are not Muslims in the first place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.37.231.64 (talk) 09:23, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose/Request move

The page should be under the common English name: Companions of the Prophet, a term that has been in use to translate Sahabah in to English for centuries.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:01, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If so, start a WP:RM for that. Khestwol (talk) 13:12, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]