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Include under controversy - Patenting and Corporate Control - outline controversy showing examples of both sides?

User:Nljoseph (User_talk:Nljoseph) 18:27, 03 December 2013 (EST)

Concrete suggestions from lthalheim@googlemail.com a contributor to the DIYbio list, on thread "Re: [DIYbio] Wikipedia clean up":

Expand the paragraph on the "first meaning" of biohacking and make it a bit more solid and less hand-wavy. In particular "In this context, biohacking refers to mixing and matching genes and characteristics from different species." really needs to go.
"Mixing and matching genes and characteristics from different species" is plain old transgenic genetic modification and engineering, and equating "biohacking" with this is just factually wrong.
The paragraph on the "second meaning" of biohacking is also still pretty mushy. It does belong in the article, though, just like the separation of the "two types" of biohacking - people on this list may not identify much with the self-tuning and body modification aspect, but the term "biohacking" _is_ used to refer to it, so an encyclopedic article should cover both these uses.
One other aspect that may belong in an article on biohacking is "Biohacking in art" - after all, artists have engaged in using/subverting biotech long before the DIYBio thing took off, see Eduardo Kac (the Damien Hirst of bioart, as he was once called), Luke Jerram, the Critical Art Ensemble or pretty much anyone whose name is in the book "Tactical Biopolitics". Including some of this is justified, I think, since artists have started using the term "biohacking" to describe their work [citation needed]. Hackteria may be one example here.

Yakushima (talk) 07:23, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I changed the pronouns concerning lepht anonym to be what it prefers, as it considers itself gender neutral (http://sapiensanonym.blogspot.com/2010/03/faq.html 173.61.196.224 (talk) 02:42, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Possible merge with Do-it-yourself biology

This article and Do-it-yourself biology seem to cover largely the same ground. Is there a difference in the terms large enough to justify separate articles? If not, what title should be used for the merged article? Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 02:05, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As part of my overall reorganization of biohacker articles, I've moved this article from Biohacker to Grinder (biohacking community) and refocused it to cover that specific aspect of biohacker culture. Biohacker now redirects to Do-it-yourself biology, which has a section about grinders leading back here. Of course, I'm always open to feedback. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 01:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

+1 - David Gerard (talk) 09:06, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]