Wikipedia talk:Signature tutorial/Archive 1

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I think this should be added to the "What to do now page" since I have had a number of people complain to me that my signature does not link back to my talk page or userpage and many people may not know how to do this. Arundhati Bakshi (talk • contribs) 18:01, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Nice tutorial

Very Nice, it is very simple and gets straight to the point--IAMTHEEGGMAN (talk) 20:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

The FONT tag

The HTML FONT tag you use in examples - I've been told it's not a part of HTML standard and is highly discouraged. Instead, text should be wrapped in <span> tags with style="color: green" (for example). Misza13 ^{T C} 12:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I keep getting a message saying the HTML in my sig is wrong. Could you please help? [[User:Bananagirl |<color=Fuchsia>Bananagirl</color>]] [[User talk:Bananagirl |<color=lime>talk</color>]] Thanks Bananagirl 12:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, well, sorry to be a bother again but I got the message again! I did what you said though [[User:Bananagirl |<font color=Fuchsia>Bananagirl</color>]] [[User talk:Bananagirl |<font color=lime>talk</color>]] <font color=Fuchsia>Bananagirl</color> <font color=lime>talk</color> 13:13, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Tutorial

Nice tutorial- perhaps you could add a link to it/merge it with WP:SIG and Wikipedia:How to fix your signature- I tried using these for mine but they were a little too brief! EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME 18:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

4 tildes

Just putting this >> 1234g5g6 isn't enough for a signature, where do I put the 4 tildes? How do I get this (07:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)) component of the signature??? Stop The Lies 07:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I figured it out! YAAAY! :) Maîtresse 08:33, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Backgrounds?

Can you add a section on backgrounds, perhaps? --θnce θn this island ^Speak! 23:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Well this is nice.

But how do you get a sig working when you have a space in your name? I tried _ to no avail. Vael Victus 14:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Vael Victus (talk • contribs) 14:10, 8 April 2008

Fix?

I was having a problem using your signature tips, it kept telling me the signature was invalid. Then I realized that I need to put quotes around the font color names like <font color="green"> instead of <font color=green>, and that fixed the problem!

Hey thanks for adding this info. I was stuck and I didn't quite understand how it worked until I red your help.Whoniverse93 21:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Clarification requested

Congratulations. This is a great tutorial! But a couple of comments:

• The tutorial says making sure the box marked "Raw signature" is not selected. I see a box marked Sign my name exactly as shown. Has the name of the box been changed? To achieve the desired effect I have to select the box.

• The tutorial also says Bob wants a green and maroon signature, so he types [[User:UserBob|<font color="green">UserBob</font>]] [[User talk:UserBob|<font color="maroon">talk</font>]], producing ... ... It would be a good idea if the tutorial explained exactly where he types this. Dolphin (talk) 07:58, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree with your second point. Also with your second sentence! This IS a great tutorial, and I learned loads. yes, they did change the box. ~Monk (^Chat _Harrass) 22:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much

May I thank you for your advice. I simply wanted a nice signature with nothing too fancy and you've told me how to do it so thanks, thanks and thanks again. One question: how do you make the signature go onto the next line, as though you have pressed enter because if you type it like that, it just contracts back to one line...? Hope you can help me. Respond on my talk page cause I'll probably forget about this message- I'm so forgetful haha. TheFartyDoctor talk 20:53, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

"Font" Deprecated?

I note that this otherwise helpful tutorial recommends using <font color="gold">...</font>. I've got stuff like that in my signature, and an editor recently "cleaned up" my signature on his user talk page. I objected, but have since found that WP:SIG says "Avoid deprecated markup such as the <font> tag." (and "If a signature violates the guidelines for signatures, ... you may edit the signature to the standard form" is one of the exceptional cases at WP:TPO where it is acceptable to edit other people's talk page comments, though it still seems to me to be quite unnecessary and undesirable to do so).

So we have a situation where "Preferences" on signature choice signposts editors to WP:SIG which signposts them to this tutorial, which disagrees with the Guidelines at WP:SIG! Ouch.

Perhaps someone could modify the tutorial, or the guideline at WP:SIG, so that they are in agreement? PamD 11:45, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, just noticed this was raised 8 years ago in #The_FONT_tag above! PamD 11:56, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

I've raised the same point at Wikipedia_talk:Signatures#.22Font.22_Deprecated.3F which probably has more watchers, so I suggest that any discussion takes place there. Thanks. PamD 12:07, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it! (Note newly-compliant signature) PamD 17:09, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Examples

It might be useful to add an Examples section. An assortment of interesting signatures could be contributed by existing users, possibly changing the usernames to protect the innocent. How you would go about soliciting those contributions, I wouldn't know.

For example, I want a 3-D effect using shadowing, but I can't remember the username where I saw that. I could come here for an example and modify it for my own use.

On the other hand, everybody and his dog would then have an interesting signature, so it would lose a lot of its snob appeal. Maybe that's why this hasn't been done already? :) Mandruss (talk) 22:40, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

I went ahead and started an examples section using my own new sig. If it remains the only example after a year or so---or if you feel it's inappropriate in some way---feel free to delete the section!

On second thought, it's a bad idea to change the usernames, as that would redlink them and ruin the value as real-life examples. Any contributors will have to accept the possibility of unwelcome talk page activity from people they wouldn't otherwise have contact with (Dude, your signature stinks!).   Mandruss |talk  01:30, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Examples reformat

@David Condrey: I disagree with your reformatting into a table. I would have reverted per BRD, but your second edit made the first undoable and I didn't want to revert both.

First, the time/date stamps better show what the sig looks like in actual use, by juxtaposing it with normal text. Secondly, I had a tiny comment beside mine that I thought was important, or I wouldn't have put it there. Others might have similar needs. But the new format makes those comments impossible.

I hope you will consider restoring the original format. ‑‑Mandruss (t) 07:18, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

I thought it looked much nicer this way, easier to see the variations of each style. If you disagree, you can revert, I won't get upset because I appreciate the discussion about it. I'm not really vested in it, I just thought it could use some improvement so I went for it. David Condrey ^{log talk} 07:23, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Reverted both, re-added the Signing section which I agree is an improvement. Thanks. ‑‑Mandruss (t) 07:28, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

At least part of the reason the table made it easier to see the variations was the increased amount of white space between the sigs. I have added an additional newline between each sig. ‑‑Mandruss (t) 07:43, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Just for future reference, there is another reason not to use a table format for the examples. It's easy to add your sig—just edit, sign the usual way, and save, exactly as you do on a talk page. Adding a table entry, not so much, especially for less experienced users. ‑‑Mandruss (t) 08:06, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

After sleeping on it, I removed the new "Signing" section after all. This essay is about customizing your sig, not about different ways to sign (using three or five tildes for different results). That information is available in WP:Signatures, and is of limited interest anyway. ‑‑Mandruss (t) 21:22, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Edditing background colors

I added a note at the top of the tutorial explaining that a brief look into changing background colors is located in Wikipedia:Signatures, which is a rather inadept guide to this. I will add a section on this on some other date unless someone else gets to it first. Orduin talk 01:57, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

You're aware that the same page is linked in the second word of the tutorial? ‑‑Mandruss (t) 02:02, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Oops, Fixed that to a note mentioning where it is Orduin talk 20:39, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Actually, I wasn't talking about overlinking, but rather questioning the value of that sentence if we have previously directed the reader to the same page. But it's a nit, it's a fun essay, not a mainspace article. ‑‑Mandruss (t) 20:42, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, I'll be adding a section about background colors soon, unless someone else gets to it first, so the note is only temporary. Orduin talk 21:04, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Awesome. If you're feeling into it, maybe a quick-reference table showing one or more examples of each effect and the markup for each? Just a passing thought, something to ponder. ‑‑Mandruss (t) 21:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Limit to colours in 1 signature?

Ok, so i've got this sort of done but it appears too big for a signature and won't fit in the box, can anyone recommend a way to trim this? "Jenova"

The code is visible in the editing window. Jenova20 (talk) 16:48, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Got it working! Just check the edit window and see your example (Also posting to your talk page) -- Orduin _⋘T⋙ 20:13, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Decided against posting to your talk page as note is from 3 years ago, and you have probably moved on, or figured it out. Only posted to show that it could be done. -- Orduin _⋘T⋙ 20:20, 1 November 2014 (UTC)