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March 17

Request on 03:58:15, 17 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Paulhutchinsfl

You sent me this message about my submissionThe submission has not been accepted because it included copyrighted information, which is not permitted on Wikipedia can you be more specific please?Paulhutchinsfl (talk) 03:58, 17 March 2015 (UTC)paul hutchins[reply]


Paulhutchinsfl (talk) 03:58, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Paulhutchinsfl. It appears that you are writing an advertisement for a book that you have written yourself. The text contains phrases and whole sentences that have been used in various other advertisements for the book, for example, on this web site: http://www.hubblerevealscreation.com/ . Even though you or your publisher may have written this text, because it is previously published Wikipedia can't use it unless it is officially donated through this process: Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. However, there is really no point in doing this, because the text as written is so highly promotional (instead of being written from a neutral point of view), as well as containing opinions and ideas (instead of just facts about the book), that the draft would need to be almost completely rewritten to be acceptable. You have added some references, and that's good - but references must be independently written about the book (not about space or about the telescope, etc.). For example, book reviews, news reports or magazine articles written about this book by journalists or other authors not connected with you or your publisher or friends would make good references. Social media sites and Youtube are not suitable, nor are commercial websites with an interest in selling the book. By the time you take away all of the words like "inspirational". "awe-inspiring", etc., you will likely have solved the copyright issue as well. —Anne Delong (talk) 05:29, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

09:38:31, 17 March 2015 review of submission by Tinghuber2015


Hi,

The article has been rejected with the comment "You need to prove secondary sources, not just ones from the school itself." Please can somebody clarify this point? I suppose my question is "how does Wikipedia define independent?" as I thought I'd met this requirement.

I'm slightly confused as I have referenced what i would consider secondary sources, i.e., independent news sites, a diploma thesis, a research project, school web sites (not schools owned/operated by UWS).

Is it the entire article that is at fault or just certain facts? Or do I perhaps need to target the references a bit more tightly, i.e., reference individual facts more specifically?

Or is just that a school saying "We work with UWS" is not considered independent enough, but a news article saying "School X works with UWS" is considered independent enough? I've worked on the assumption that content on the UWS web site would be off limits as not independent, but content on third party web sites would be okay.

In more detail:

"They work in Cambodia" fact

http://www.stephencodrington.com/Hub/HK_Blog/Entries/2010/12/4_Just_10_Highlights_of_a_Very_Busy_Week.html Would it help if I added some disambiguation like text to clarify that "United World Schools" and "United World Colleges" are not the same thing? I can see how that might be confusing. Or is that disallowed as a reference as it is a blog? Or is this reference okay?

http://theambitionquestion.com/2014/05/22/we-want-a-school-the-ambition-of-a-village-northeast-cambodia/ I'd actually have preferred to reference his research project but didn't as this is hosted on the UWS web site so it might not appear truly independent. http://www.unitedworldschools.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Evaluating-the-impact-of-delivering-primary-eduacion-in-NE-Cambodia-Ian-Caswell.pdf

"They work in Myanmar" fact

http://is.muni.cz/th/411489/pedf_m/Diploma_Thesis.pdf That's a diploma thesis so I assume qualifies as independent.

"The charity twins each community school it develops with another school in more affluent parts of the world." fact

I added various links to third party school web sites to verify this. These are not schools owned by UWS, but schools UWS collaborates with.

I also added references to news articles that mention UWS third party school collaborations. I'm not really sure of any way of proving a link between two organisations other than the organisations themselves saying they are collaborating. I'm wondering if there is a lack of clarity in the article about schools UWS supports in Cambodia and Myanmar (not individually listed in the article) vs schools UWS collaborates with.

Or is the point that a link from Portsmouth grammar school or Kings Education saying they work with UWS is not independent enough, but a link from the Japan Times saying British School of Tokyo work with UWS is independent enough?

Many thanks for your help with this. My Wikipedia career is off to shaky start, but it's a start!

Tinghuber2015 (talk) 09:38, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verification of facts: Because the editors on Wikipedia are not professional fact-checkers, we depend on those who are, namely the editors of newspaper, magazines, journals, books, etc. Therefore, most information should be cited to a published document with editorial oversight, not someone's personal web page or social media. Some very obvious information, such as the name of an organization or where its office is located can be sourced to the organization's web site if no other better source can be found. Everything else needs to be verified from these edited publications.
  • Notability: Wikipedia only has articles about well-known subjects that have been written about extensively in publications independent of the subject itself. To show that the United World Schools is a topic about which Wikipedia should have an article, the draft should include references to reports, reviews, magazine articles, etc., written by authors who have no conflict of interest in choosing this subject. That means that web sites of schools who have received support, press releases prepared by the UWS, articles or announcements of upcoming events contributed to newspapers by its employees, information posted on its web site, etc., are discounted because they are not independent.

In your draft you have two news reports which are good sources. The academic paper is useful, although a little weak, since the information there is sourced back to the UWS brochure. The information on school websites has been written to promote the schools themselves, and the facts in them are not provided by a neutral source. Here's an article with a small mention: http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/higham-hill-headteacher-cambodia-charity-6461255 —Anne Delong (talk) 13:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Anne. That's really helpful. You're a star. I'll try and find some more references. Tinghuber2015 (talk) 23:14, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

11:17:54, 17 March 2015 review of submission by 212.198.181.146

Hello ,

tell me if i'm on the good way .... what is right or wrong or may be you can correct me or give me an advice Thank you

212.198.181.146 (talk) 11:17, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@212.198.181.146: Since you are writing a biography of a living person, your article needs to have in-line citations for all the information in the article. It is not enough to just have a list of references at the end. For information on adding in-line citations, see Referencing for beginners or Introduction to referencing. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 22:29, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

12:50:11, 17 March 2015 review of submission by Lauren

Hello, I was wondering if you could do an article on Georgie Aldous? He's a YouTube personality from England. I'd create an article because I work for the Local Newspaper in which he will be featured in on Friday but I don't know how to.

He's feature on the below links:

Famous Birthdays [1] Wikitubia [2] YouTube [3] Twitter [4] Website [5]

He is very well known in our area of Great Yarmouth and surrounding Area's. I will have a notable link when I publish the Article on him around Friday.

If you search ' Georgie Aldous ' in Google you will find all relevant information about him.

Thanks for your time, Lauren. 86.16.65.102 (talk) 12:50, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/georgie-aldous.html
  2. ^ http://youtube.wikia.com/wiki/Georgie_Aldous
  3. ^ https://www.youtube.com/user/ohitsgeorgie
  4. ^ http://www.twitter.com/GeorgieAldous
  5. ^ http://www.georgiesjournal.com
Lauren, Wikipedia reports information only "after the fact," so you'll have to wait until that article, along with several others about him, is published. I've done a Google search and found no reliable sources of information, so it seems that it is simply too soon to have an article about him. Anon124 (+2) (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 19:37, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

13:03:33, 17 March 2015 review of submission by Shyamw1


My article was denied for submission because the footnoting was incorrect. Can you please look at it and tell me what's wrong. I want to edit it but I don't know what I am doing wrong although I read "Referencing for Beginners". Thank you.

Shyamw1 (talk) 13:03, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Shyamw1: You almost have it. The <ref>...</ref> code should go immediately after a particular statement that the source supports. Right now, they're at the end, which is not very helpful for checking each statement.
For example:
Wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia.<ref>...source 1...</ref> It is one of the most popular sites on the Web.<ref>...source 2...</ref>
This gives:
Wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia.[1] It is one of the most popular sites on the Web.[2]
Anon124 (+2) (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 19:29, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 13:12:12, 17 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by 86.131.108.169

I am trying to add a page about Reginald Waywell who was recently honored with a Doctorate in fine art by the Univeristy of Chester. He is a well known artist in Warrington Cheshire UK and has art work in the towns public gallery. He is very much worthy of a page on Wikipedia because he is the most well known artist in the North west of the UK. But you keep preventing the page because of referencing. I do not understand how to write HTML so have been struggling for three years now to get you to publish this article about Reginald Waywell. As I say I do not understand technical jargon so I am unable to even understand why my article keeps getting rejected.

86.131.108.169 (talk) 13:12, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@86.131.108.169: Unfortunately, all articles about living people need to have in-line citations. If you need help adding references, see Referencing for Beginners or Introduction to Referencing. There are tools such as RefToolbar that can help you enter references without using any HTML. If you have a specific question about how to add a references, feel free to ask at The Teahouse. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 22:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:04:09, 17 March 2015 review of submission by Dr Fun111

I am not sure what the copyright infringement is (it's listed as unambiguous).

All of the text used in the wikipedia draft for "All Through The House Film" was taken directly from a press release on the film's website. Does that make it a copyright infringement? There are at least 15 blogs writing about the film "All Through The House", and most of them use the same language as the film's website/press release. So, if there is a copyright infringement, it is not with ZombiePrank.com, it is with the actual website for "All Through The House":

http://www.allthroughthehousemovie.com/holiday-horror-2015-pr/

http://zombieprank.com/related-news/trailer-stills-drop-for-the-christmas-themed-horror-film-all-through-the-house

Is it possible to quote directly from the film's press release to describe the movie and not have a copyright infringement? Please let me know how I may do that. Or, can I just remove the copyright infringements? I just need to know what they are so the submission is not rejected again. Thank you very much for your assistance.

Dr Fun111 (talk) 20:04, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr Fun111: Wikipedia cannot accept material copied from elsewhere, unless it explicitly exists under a compatible licence and is written in an acceptable tone—this includes material that you own the copyright to. You should attribute the content of a draft to outside sources, using citations, but copying and pasting or closely paraphrasing sources is not acceptable. The entire draft should be written using your own words and structure. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 22:20, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

21:02:47, 17 March 2015 review of submission by Dedimanullang

Dedimanullang (talk) 21:02, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dedimanullang: What is your question? I noticed that you tried to create an article in Indonesian. This is the English language Wikipedia, but did you know that there is an Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia? If you are more comfortable writing in the Indonesian language you should try to create your article there. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 22:24, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

23:35:03, 17 March 2015 review of submission by Mlserio

I have citations to add and references but am having trouble using the tool to do that. For instance #7 reference should be Florida Stories from NPR where Elizabeth was featured, but the reference won't edit. She's also featured in Central Florida Radio online, has been featured in the Sarasota Herald Tribune and others. Mlserio (talk) 23:35, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mlserio: To edit that reference, you will need to edit the portion of the article where the link to the footnote appears, not the references section. Unforunately the RefToolbar tool can't edit existing references, it can only create new ones, so easiest way to edit the reference is to find it in the text, remove it, and use the tool to create a new one. For that particular reference, edit the "Career" section of the page and look for the following sentence. The highlighted portion is the reference, which you can either edit manually or delete and recreate using the tool:
In June 2011, Dougherty was featured on "Florida Stories" <ref>[http://www.wusf.usf.edu/news/program/florida_stories/episode/2011-06/eat_st._petefood_nation_radio_network_-_elizabeth_dough#]</ref> broadcast across central Florida on PBS station [[WUSF_(FM)]].
--Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:09, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 18

02:24:27, 18 March 2015 review of submission by Sokolo11


I received this message: "Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Basis function instead."

However, I submitted from my sandbox page and assumed that I was indeed editing the Basis function page. I am trying to understand why it is appearing as if I am trying to create a new page instead of editing the Basis page like I intend. Sokolo11 (talk) 02:24, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Sokolo11: The Basis function article was created in 2002, long before you started editing your draft in your sandbox. Instead of creating a new page, you can either directly edit Basis function using the "Edit" tab in the upper right of the page or you can propose changes at Talk:Basis function. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:03, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

02:25:30, 18 March 2015 review of submission by QUSRAAFCAF

QUSRAAFCAF (talk) 02:25, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]


qusraafcaf page has been reedited with references. REviewer is on leave. I need help in getting pictures I uploaded using commons to my page but can't find them again. files qus 1 to qus 10. can u help?

@QUSRAAFCAF: You don't have to wait for the original reviewer to return. If you want someone else to review your draft, you just need to paste {{subst:submit}} at the top of your page and save it.
You can find a list of files you've uploaded to commons at https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListFiles&user=QUSRAAFCAF&ilshowall=1 --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:13, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

14:33:42, 18 March 2015 review of submission by Lalehfarrah

I don't understand why this was denied specifically. I rewrote this once and references many externals sources. Can you please provide some specifics about what is wrong with it? The denial said it reads like an advertisement, but I don't agree with that at all. I'm not sure how to change it so it doesnt. I've looked at all the companies like ours and they follow this exact same format and are approved. Please help me understand how to fix this. Thank you!! Lalehfarrah (talk) 14:33, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Lalehfarrah: You have not shown that DataSphere Technologies meets the standards of WP:CORP. You would need to add citations to significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. List or directory entries on Deloitte or crunchbase are not considered significant coverage, and neither are coverage of routine transaction announcements. Reprints of press releases are not considered independent. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:19, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

23:58:47, 18 March 2015 review of submission by Mlserio

  • Mlserio (talk · contribs) (TB)
    • I am trying to submit this for review, but it is not submitting. I've been working on this for a year and adding more references.----

Mlserio (talk) 23:58, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mlserio:  Done I have submitted Draft:Elizabeth Dougherty for review on your behalf. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 01:37, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]


March 19

02:43:10, 19 March 2015 review of submission by QUSRAAFCAF

I need to get my draft to main page for review and publishing see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QUSRAAFCAF#Brief_History It is user draft section and comes up on a web search for "Queensland University Squadron"


QUSRAAFCAF (talk) 02:43, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@QUSRAAFCAF: I have submitted the draft for review on your behalf, and it can now be found at Draft:Queensland University Active Citizens Air Force Squadron. Please also see the note I left on your talk page about your username. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:15, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:56:45, 19 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Nancy Goovaerts


Hi! My name is Nancy Goovaerts. I am the Corporate Communications Manager of the UNIVEG Group. I have submitted a self written article about the UNIVEG Group. But unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included - so called- copyrighted information, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. This entire draft was written using my own words and structure. Can you please provide feedback so this article gets approved?

Nancy Goovaerts (talk) 14:56, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Nancy Goovaerts: The page was deleted by ThaddeusB both because it was "Unambiguous advertising or promotion" and because it was "Partially a copyright violation". I can't see the deleted draft, but the copyright violation was likely text that appeared either to be identical to or closely paraphrased from corporate literature.
The reviewer also felt that your submission appeared to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. You should also review the guide for editing with a conflict of interest. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:09, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 17:53:42, 19 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Frankmalcolmkembery

I recently submitted to articles for creation but the reviewer declined to accept it at this time due to it not being adequately supported by reliable sources. Please can you explain in more detail what reliable sources is supposed to be and why my article did not have reliable sources. Yours sincerely Frank Malcolm Kembery frankmalcolmkembery 17:53, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

@Frankmalcolmkembery: Because your article is the biography of a living person, every statement of fact in the article needs to be backed up by an in-line citation to a reliable source that verifies that the information is correct (see WP:RS for definitions of what counts as a reliable source). However, even if you make these changes, I'm not sure that Frank Malcolm Kembery meets the standards of WP:MUSICBIO. Please read over WP:MUSICBIO and make sure your article qualifies before resubmitting. Thanks. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:51, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

18:04:11, 19 March 2015 review of submission by Group IFC

My page was refused as the references were not strong enough. The awards that the organisation has won are totally independent - would these not work as references? Any help on how to get better references would be greatly appreciated. Group IFC (talk) 18:04, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Group IFC: Please see WP:CORP for what qualifies an organization as notable. You need to cite significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. A listing on an award page is not considered significant coverage.
Also, please read the notice I left on your talk page about your username. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:56, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

18:10:21, 19 March 2015 review of submission by Magnet321

Magnet321 (talk) 18:10, 19 March 2015 (UTC) This is all wikigobble. Try again! Your wiki code is indecipherable. This is deliberate mechanism to discourage contributors. Magnet321----[reply]

18:14:32, 19 March 2015 review of submission by Dstonewpi

I need the headling of the article to read: Howard D. Morgan, not World Press Institute. Dstonewpi (talk) 18:14, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dstonewpi:  Done --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:44, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I moved your draft to Draft:Howard D. Morgan, but I had to decline it because it appeared to be a copyright violation. Please see the message on your talk page. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:58, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:09:35, 19 March 2015 review of submission by Dstonewpi

The story was rejected because it took material from the World Press Institute web site. Howard Morgan is a member of the board of the WPI. He authorized the biography that we submitted. I am a staff member at the World Press Institute. So I don't see any copyright problem. Please advise. Dstonewpi (talk) 20:09, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The page the text was copied from, http://worldpressinstitute.org/bios/howard_morgan.htm, clearly says "Copyright © 2015 World Press Institute" at the bottom. Wikipedia cannot accept material copied from elsewhere, unless it explicitly exists under a compatible licence and is written in an acceptable tone—this includes material that you own the copyright to. In order to use that text on Wikipedia you would need to follow the instructions at WP:Donating copyrighted materials to release it under a compatible license. However, most information on organizations' websites is designed to be promotional, and therefore isn't written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. You're much better off rewriting the information from a neutral point of view, making sure that the text refers to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:33, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

22:32:15, 19 March 2015 review of submission by Chersky


Chersky (talk) 22:32, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry to trouble you but I should be very grateful for clarification of the problem with references mentioned as the reason for the rejection of my article in its present form, especially as this was not something mentioned by the previous reviewer. Is the problem that the references have not been entered correctly (many of them being bibliographical references to the subject's published work and appearing as such)or that there are insufficient references in the final section(or both!). It would be a great help if you could give me one or two examples of specific incorrect or inadequate citations and point me in the right direction.

With thanks

Prof Alex Chersky

Chersky (talk) 22:32, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are a number of problems. The one that @Onel5969: mentions at the top of the Draft is that for articles about living people, "Contentious material, whether negative, positive, or neutral" must have an inline citation; and, for all articles, "Any statement that you believe is likely to be challenged" must have an inline citation. I'm not too sure that many parts of your Draft would be caught by this, but certainly things like "he bought out for one pound from its majority shareholders and operators after they had proved fraudulent" is a strong claim to have completely unreferenced.
Second (and perhaps related) is promotional wording. I am guessing it's true that Early Greek Warfare was revolutionary, but if Wikipedia is to use such a strong word then it needs to cite an independent reliable source that says so. Likewise we don't need to say that Ted Wright is "distinguished". "brilliant pioneering work" is a little too emphatic to stand uncited. Then later "a revolutionary all-on-film total immersion course", teaching "the best English speaking and pronunciation skills".
Third is a rather pointy tone. "Regrettably the teaching unions still call the shots, and the country’s educational attainments and social mobility languish low in international rankings". This is more an opinion than a statement of facts about Greenhalgh's life. "...not waste time teaching phonetic alphabets that, unlike the notation of music, will never be used". This is a point of view and should not be stated in Wikipedia's voice in this context. It would be acceptable, of course, to say "Greenhalgh took this approach because he believed that phonetic alphabets, ..." et cetera.
As a general note, rather more inline citations, especially to sources independent of Greenhalgh and his publishers, would be helpful. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 11:37, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 22:54:25, 19 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Steve23546

my article was declinedand im not sure why and i dont understand there help to improve it

Steve23546 (talk) 22:54, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your Draft Draft:Nick Merico needs more and better references. Take a look at Nick's co-star Paola Andino to see the quantity and quality of references that might be needed to establish Nick's notability in Wikipedia terms. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 11:00, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 20

00:24:21, 20 March 2015 review of submission by Bcornwell32


Bcornwell32 (talk) 00:24, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have an article I am trying to reference at: http://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/2245/20150219/criminal-minds-season-10-episode-16-spoilers-major-cast-member.htm

But when I add it, then click on the references it goes to the home page of the reference and not the specific article. How can I link this article correctly?

thanks,

brittany

@Bcornwell32:  Fixed: You seem to be putting // at the end of your URLs. If you remove them, the links will go to the correct place. I have taken care of the links in your draft, just make sure that you don't have any extra //s at the end for future links that you add. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:40, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

thank you so much! i had one more question if you don't mind. in my article i explain that i co-founded a group called 'polo buddies' and then i describe what the group is. would it help to add a reference to the website www.polobuddies.com after that explanation. Or would that not be helpful. thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bcornwell32 (talk • contribs) 20:46, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

04:55:33, 20 March 2015 review of submission by FoxyFlute


FoxyFlute (talk) 04:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My article was given conditional acceptance and marked as "Start-Class", with the recommendation to add further categories. I have now added all the relevant categories, as recommended. Will my article now be changed from "Start Class" to a regular article? FoxyFlute (talk) 04:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@FoxyFlute: I have reassessed Johann Baptist Wendling as C class and removed the maintenance tag. If you're confident that a tag is redundant, be bold and remove it. WikiProject Classical Music may be able to give more advice. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 07:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

14:39:56, 20 March 2015 review of submission by Dcw2003

I need help tagging the references to the text, beginning with the date of Abe's victory winning the Panamanian Heavyweight championship to reference the New York's Time Article in the references list. There are also problems with the text not being thoroughly "encylopedic," although I know everything I have listed is factual. I cannot list every page in which I have used Abe's autobiography for information, as there are 30 editions of Abe's autobiography, and most have different paging, although I could attempt to put a chapter as a reference I would prefer not to if I can get around it.

The information in the piece is in many cases drawn from other Wiki articles. I would greatly appreciate someone reviewing my piece without deleting too much information, although I'm open to quite a few deletions if necessary.


Dcw2003 (talk) 14:39, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dcw2003 - Happy to help. On citations themselves, where to insert, etc., see WP:CITE. On how to format those citations, you can take a look at WP:CIT. The latter will also has a link when you want to use the same reference many times. To use a reference, you need a page number. I would select one of the versions of the autobiography, and stick with that. You can "ping" me here, (use the @Dcw2003: template), or you can message me on my talk page if you need further help. Onel5969 (talk) 15:03, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

17:20:02, 20 March 2015 review of submission by Willygg

I am not clear what exactly notability requires. Mike Jones was an eminent 20th century muralist and trade union artist.. I have referenced all that and provided background on his life, with significant facts hyperlinked. I have included footnote references. Could you give me specific examples from the submission of what needs to change. Many thanks. Willygg (talk) 17:20, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

19:10:11, 20 March 2015 review of submission by ArtVigilante2

Hi, My article wasn't approved, but it is comparable to the following pages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Eagle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Maidman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_T._Scott https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kassan

My article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ArtVigilante/sandbox

What can I do to improve my article. Should I list exhibitions like Richard T. Scott? I like the simplicity of Ellen Eagle's page. Please advise.

ArtVigilante2 (talk) 19:10, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I responded to this editor on my talk page. Onel5969 (talk) 14:19, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 19:21:38, 20 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by NottsInfo


NottsInfo (talk) 19:21, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:09:28, 20 March 2015 review of submission by Madegray


Madegray (talk) 20:09, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to create a wikipedia page to point to and distinguish Gordon Gray, the publisher from the other Gordon Gray's that are on wikipedia. I'm not sure how I would go about proving his date of birth and birthplace. All other information is public and verifiable. What needs to be done to have the page approved?

Hi Madegray - There are two issues with your article. First, there is only a single reference, and while that establishes Gray as the founder of Mafia, it is a mere mention of him. There are two types of references, those which verify facts (like your reference), and those which establish notability. Your reference would help establish the notability of Porter (who the article is about), but not Gray. We need to see coverage like this about Gray, to establish notability, and they need to come from independent sources. Second, once you have the notability references, you need to make sure that each assertion you make which might prove contentious, has an inline citation. You can learn more about references at either referencing for beginners or citing sources. Further, you can learn how to format your citations at citation templates. Assertions like changing the name of the company would definitely need a reference. Finally, while not a problem, you should remove the sentence about his net worth. We don't report unknowns. Onel5969 (talk) 14:33, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 21

05:00:55, 21 March 2015 review of submission by Arunharry2015


Arunharry2015 (talk) 05:00, 21 March 2015 (UTC) Hi[reply]

Have been trying to create this article on my late grand father Dr V Hariharan who was a freedom fighter, physician and social worker of repute during the first half of the 20th Century. Unfortunately, there is not much on him on the net barring a few references here and there as what i know of him, he was a true Gandhian who never believed in showcasing his work or claiming credit for what he did. This is just my small attempt to give a little due for what all he has done. The narrative is based on information i have gathered from living sources (people) who knew him, of which the dates, people and events mentioned I have been able to corroborate with actual events in history. Therefor, it is requested that the article be approved.

05:19:37, 21 March 2015 review of draft by Мамуля007

I have found a lot of articles on the person I am writing about in different magazines and newspapers (for example in "The Oregonian"). I can order these articles and print them out, but can not provide a link to list them in References box. The links I could find so far seem not to be as notable. Could you please help me with the research of links for reliable sources or give me any suggestions? Мамуля007 (talk) 05:19, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Мамуля007 - You cite the sources that you have, it does not matter if there is no web link. To cite a newspaper or magazine article you need to include the following in the reference: newspaper/magazine title, date, article title, author's name (if there is one, if the article is from an agency then name the agency instead of the author), page number. That is enough information for someone to find the article in a library or archive collection. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:51, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

05:41:03, 21 March 2015 review of submission by Bonmee

I need help with an article that was declined due to notability. A first reviewer, Mr. Guye, stated "excellent draft here" (so I thought my article was in good shape), but had me include more verifiable sources before I resubmitted. However, my resubmission was then declined due to lack of notability in my article. I have reviewed the criteria for notability for "musicians and ensembles," and it states that my article "must meet at least one of the following criteria," while I have shown that the subject of my article meets more than one: "1. Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself." I have provided several verifiable sources that I believe meet that #1 criteria. Also, "4. Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country." References 10 and 11 in my article show that the subject has received coverage in independent reliable sources on tour with the artist Moby. In addition, "10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., ...performance in a television show." References 6 and 7 in my submitted article show that Julie Mintz has performed on both "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" and "Conan." And finally, criteria "5. Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels." Julie Mintz has released 1 album on a notable indie label (see reference 12 and 13) that is responsible for major indie releases including Bat for Lashes and Warpaint. I understand if this final criteria is not permissible, as the subject of my article has not released two albums on this label. I feel like my article is being judged overly critically for notability. Can you please advise me how I should proceed and if there is a possibility of having my article re-reviewed? Or simply what I should do next? Thank so much! Bonmee (talk) 05:41, 21 March 2015 (UTC) Bonmee (talk) 05:41, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bonmee - To get another review all you need to do is click the blue "Resubmit" button in the pink review box - but don't do it yet! While the references you now have do imho establish Mintz's notability there are some rather wide gaps in the referencing - the Early life and Early career sections in particular are not yet adequately referenced - only one statement in each of these sections are actually properly sourced. It is particularly important that her family background information, where claims about her relatives and her ethnicity and religion are stated, must be properly referenced. If you can't find a source for those claims rather remove them. The WP:EGRS rules are necessarily strict to protect the privacy and dignity of living people mentioned in articles. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:10, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 11:16:58, 21 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Trankieuvan

I don't really know how to edit my draft to meet the requirements of wikipedia, especially "encyclopedia article". I have already deleted some "peacock" words and this draft I have from ASEAN Secretariat - Culture & Information Division.

Could you please help me to edit the article? Thank you very much!

Trankieuvan (talk) 11:16, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 20:44:09, 21 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Mike-eastman

I have sent an article in about the London band Katch 22, it is a true report of events as they happened. I have tried to add photographs to corroborate the article but as I edit to make it similar to the layout of other 60's bands pages, the page does not load the same as it I make. Can someone edit it for me in the right format. I can send any further pictures as they are needed. Mike-eastman (talk) 20:44, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mike-eastman (talk) 20:44, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

22:59:09, 21 March 2015 review of submission by Bcornwell32

Bcornwell32 (talk) 22:59, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]


In the article I'm creating i explain that David co-founded a group called 'polo buddies' and then i describe what the group is. would it help to add a reference to the website www.polobuddies.com after that explanation. Or would that not be helpful. thanks!

March 22

Request on 06:20:35, 22 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Bcornwell32


In the article I'm creating i explain that David co-founded a group called 'polo buddies' and then i describe what the group is. would it help to add a reference to the website www.polobuddies.com after that explanation. Or would that not be helpful. thanks!

Bcornwell32 (talk) 06:20, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

08:37:15, 22 March 2015 review of submission by DimaGIT

Draft:Abdulla Al Gurg , I am requesting help to understand why my Draft has been deleted and why I don't have a chance to work on it and whether is it ok to create a new draft with the same title and get it reviewed. Thanks

DimaGIT (talk) 08:37, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Go to Draft:Abdulla Al Gurg and follow the instructions to have the draft 'refunded' Fiddle Faddle 13:24, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

17:05:56, 22 March 2015 review of submission by MedResearchSF

Hi, My article was reviewed by Looie496 - clearly a very knowledgeable person in the field of neuroscience. His/her review claims that 'Legitimate sources are repeatedly misused as references for statements that they do not support.' but does not give any indication of what specifically he/she views as being misused. I've asked Looie496 through his/her talk page for some specifics so that I can correct them, but have not heard back. My first request was on March 5th. My second response was just today - so I know there hasn't been any chance to respond to my second request.

I've gone into some of the forums to get clarification and some other reviewers were dismayed by the lack of specificity as well.

I've had several neuroscientists review my article (some of them are also the authors of some of the cited works) and they aren't clear what the reviewer objected to.

I don't mind making edits - I want this to be the best article possible. I just need to know specifically what needs to be addressed. Could you please advise me on how to proceed?

Thanks, MedResearchSF (talk) 17:05, 22 March 2015 (UTC)MedResearchSF[reply]

MedResearchSF (talk) 17:05, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Have you asked the reviewer? It is like to be the fastest route.
I have not looked at the draft, not my area of expertise, but, if the references are by the folk inside the topic there is a potential issue unless the material is peer reviewed. Fiddle Faddle 17:10, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have asked WikiProject Medicine to assist with this issue. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:23, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]


the article cites 27 references...none are reviews that fall within a 5 year range, (see Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources_(medicine) --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:34, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 23

Request on 08:28:25, 23 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by DestroyMyJeep

Hi there, I have updated my page with the assistance of a user on the live-help section, to bring it into line with your requirements. I have been waiting about 15 days for someone to come along and give it the final approval, but no one has come along. Can you please let me know if I need to do something to notify the reviewers that this is ready for final review? Please advise,

Ashton Wood. DestroyMyJeep

DestroyMyJeep (talk) 08:28, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean Draft:Destroy My Jeep it was deleted as unambiguous advertising on 11 March 2015 by MelanieN, who will be able to discuss this with you. Fiddle Faddle 13:11, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

10:54:52, 23 March 2015 review of submission by Magnet321

Magnet321 (talk) 10:54, 23 March 2015 (UTC) Dear Help Desk, Reviewing your ability to reject articles you do not like and then make redress system inpenetrable. To whit receive negATIVE FEEDBACK ON MARCH !ST . CORRECTED SO I THOUGHT BY MARCH 5TH AND RESUBMITTED. NOW i find it impossible to reconnect with CraigyDavi to get further data or a response to my resubmission. Please instruct me as to what I must now do, in plain text please I cannot cope with more Wikispeak. It is dehumanising. of your writers and your volunteer Unpaid editors. It also allows them to escape ownership of their decisions.Psychologically if not administratively Now simply where must I go to find further feedback on my resubmission. Incidentally your search engine can find no reference to CraigyDavi. Would the real Craig Davison Stand up please? Magnet321----[reply]

The best way to get help is to be rude. What you must do now is be pleasant, link to the draft you would like help with and ask nicely. I think you will find that no-one is much interested until that happens. There are no paid staff here, so please change you attitude. Fiddle Faddle 12:06, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

11:30:21, 23 March 2015 review of submission by Maybelline Ooi


Maybelline Ooi (talk) 11:30, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Editor,

I am have been trying to publish an article on Queen Silvia Nursing Award in Wikipedia but it had been rejected on 3 occasions due to the content, references and notability issues. I had since made the necessary edits, could I have some feedback on them so I can work towards creating a useful article for the audience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Queen_Silvia_Nursing_Award

Thank you so much.

Maybelline Ooi (talk) 11:30, 23 March 2015 (UTC)Maybel[reply]

If I could read Swedish I would be able to assess the draft's sources. I wonder, is there a Wikiproject regarding Sweden where you could ask for help? Fiddle Faddle 11:50, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@User:Timtrent - I'm sure if you ask at WP:WikiProject Sweden someone would be willing to Verify the sources. (There is a WikiProject for almost every country) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:22, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

11:49:31, 23 March 2015 review of submission by Axemangraphics

Hello I have recently received a second rejection for my submission to Wiki on St. Mary's Catholic Church, Williamstown page. Reasons given were that info had not been cited, however almost every single sentence has been cited! can someone please be a little more specific? Which phrase is preventing this from getting posted?

Axemangraphics (talk) 11:49, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Axemangraphics (talk) 11:49, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I believe, because Wikipedia is a gazetteer, this would qualify for inclusion. My opinion differs form that of the other reviewers. I'll take a brief look. Fiddle Faddle 11:53, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The point about WP being a gazetteer is relevant only to named natural features and human settlements (hamlet, village, town, city, district and so on) not individual buildings. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:26, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Saw this after I accepted it. I'm reasonably content either way. Fiddle Faddle 13:16, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

12:41:42, 23 March 2015 review of submission by Redtango88

Hi there,

My proposed page entry for business pitches has been rejected as it apparently read more like an essay than an encyclopedia. I've made some changes and was wondering if I could get it critiqued? I was wondering how my page differs from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevator_pitch, in terms of compliance with Wikipedia rules?

Thanks in advance for your time. Redtango88 (talk) 12:41, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you resubmit Draft:Business pitch for review. I have a feeling that it is more like a dictionary definition than an article Fiddle Faddle 13:19, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Redtango88 - I've made a few minor changes to improve the layout, I also added a "See also" link to a related concept; sales presentation, although that article needs quite a bit of work to get it up to standard. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:38, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

14:36:10, 23 March 2015 review of draft by Brehman90

15:21:25, 23 March 2015 review of submission by Slipvoid

I submitted my first Wikipedia article but received a message indicating the article was rejected because the submission was not adequately supported by reliable sources. This confuses me because I took the proper steps to include 9 very credible sources (scientific publications and online magazine articles). A user responded saying "Anything you can't source should be removed - even if "you know it's true". All of the information on the page is unbiased and true, I do not understand how every fact can be sourced. For example, how does one verify where they were born, worked, or studied as a major? Do I need to publish scans of work records, birth certificate, diplomas? Some of this information cannot be found online or in a book. Please advise. Thank you. Slipvoid (talk) 15:21, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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