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ə ~ ɐ

The author of the article is wrong about calling [ə] and [ɐ] phonemes, as these are phonetic realizations of one phoneme. We need to select one symbol (I suggest ⟨ə⟩) to represent this phoneme and stick to it. — Peter238 (v̥ɪˑzɪʔ mɑˑɪ̯ tˢʰoˑk̚ pʰɛˑɪ̯d̥ʒ̊) 17:39, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this is apparently the realization of a number of phonemes in unstressed position. If we can determine some criteria of when it is one the other (as is the case with Russian), then I would say we list them separately and use both. Otherwise, [ə] is fine. — Æµ§œš¹ _{[lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt]} 18:33, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the correction. From what I see, there may be no criteria, and they may be in free variation. Anyway, we need a source for that. — Peter238 (v̥ɪˑzɪʔ mɑˑɪ̯ tˢʰoˑk̚ pʰɛˑɪ̯d̥ʒ̊) 18:59, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]