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Vandalism

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Oregano 14:43, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go away. You are a blocked user with a new account and not an admin. --SGOvD webmaster (talk) 14:45, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Sam Spade and socialism

User:Sam Spade keeps reverting socialism back to his own version without attempting discussion. The next time he does this, could you please point this out to him? Thanks. -- infinity0 21:56, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If Sam Spade continues in this way, we may have to start an RfC of him. Are you active enough to participate? -- infinity0 22:10, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An RfC is a Wikipedia:Requests for comment. An example: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/SPUI. I have started a draft RfC on Sam Spade at User:Infinity0/Drafts - feel free to add anything you thinks is necessary. I hope that it will be unnecessay; but if the situation continues I will be forced to formally submit it. -- infinity0 22:42, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. I started the Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Sam Spade several days ago, and posted a notice on Talk:Socialism - you probably missed it. Pretty much everything that has been said has been said, but feel free to have a look at it and add anything you think it needs. -- infinity0 14:35, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Socks

I'd agree that JeffT appears to be another Lightbringer sock, I'm stunned that someone can get so worked up about something that he's this determined. Still, I'm sure we'll get an opportunity when he makes a mistake. ALR 09:37, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And we have another, odd approach today although I suspect a Checkuser request would be denied with so little background material.ALR 12:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rosslyn

I visited Rosslyn a few years ago, fascinating place full of very rich symbolism, the engraved quote you mention is apparently mirrored in one of the degrees which I'm not a member of. The text is on an arch near the Apprentice Pillar, as I remember. ALR 09:37, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fascinating. But have you seen this initiation carving, too? This controversial Robert Lomas writes it's in the South West corner of the Chapel.

I've heard on TV that this Knight Templar stone was found outside the chapel, but I couldn't find estimations how old it is. Would be interesting if the builder of the chapel called himself a Templar even if this order was destroyed long before (officially). --SGOvD webmaster (talk) 13:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't remember specifically seeing an initiation carving, but there is so much to see in there it'd be easy to have seen it. As to the Termplar stone, there doesn't appear to be any wear on it, compared with the stone behind it, and the cuts are far cleaner that I would attribute to the age of the chapel. I have a couple of books on it, I'll try to track them down.ALR 14:17, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regularity

Personally I'm not keen on the use of Regularity and would tend to agree that women should be free to beome Freemasons, but equally I know that the different mixes in a lodge create different ritual experiences. I'm not convinced that the current situation is sustainable, but it's a useful discussion to have. I'm particularly disappointed by some who refuse to recognise other forms of Freemaosnry at all, although that seems less prevalent now than it did in the past. I did some work on the regularity article and it would be useful to have some input from your perspective, to provide some balance.ALR 09:37, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since some of our members were formerly "regular" Masons, they had more positive than negative experiences with that. But even if it would be problematic, this would be a chance to work on myself. It doesn't matter for me if somebody is black or white, green or blue or is or was a woman or prefers to be homosexual. Being diffent and dealing with it results in being tolerant. The unknown causes anxiety. A fellow craft Mason (same word as journeyman in Germany) travels much, sees and learns a lot from unknown things, has to handle it, loses agitation.

I've already worked out something together with a "regular" Freemason in the German Wikipedia, I'll try my very best. :-) --SGOvD webmaster (talk) 13:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Discussion pages

I thought I would just remind you that wikipedia has discussion pages, so that people can discuss pages rather than just making contentious changes without regard for other editors.Harrypotter 21:02, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't remind me, remind those people. ;-) --SGOvD webmaster (talk) 04:00, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Edits

Thanks, the edits you made are better than mine :-) PS Regularity was put in, as I do not know about non-UGLE Grand Lodges/Orients as such, and they are a left-over from an edit war - so please take them out if your membership includes RCs and Muslims, etc. Imacomp 17:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, there's almost no difference. Most of my brothers of my lodge were regular Freemasons before. We try to realize liberty, equality, fraternity, tolerance and humanity. Non-UGLE Grand Lodges accept every (hu)man, of any kind, any sex and religion "in which all Man agree" which includes atheists, since nobody would deny a "highest creative order" like those physical laws that create order out of chaos.

And if a "regular" mason wants to visit non-UGLE Lodges, he's always welcome since he is a brother as all freemasons are brothers, of course.

--SGOvD webmaster (talk) 17:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Note Ben Standeven edits @ Freemasonry have been tried before. The edit record shows the agenda of Holocaust denial and denial of the anti-Freemason/anti-semetic and anti-zionist connection in the Muslim world. Also he has an agenda of pushing a "Satanic" connection to Freemasonry (via "Muslin" citations from chat pages on the net) I support your lasr edit, as a revert point :( Imacomp 09:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]