Talk:In-circuit serial programming

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PICkit 3 pin 6

Pin 6 is actually the LVP pin, for low-voltage programming enabled PIC chips. See http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/PICkit_3_User_Guide_51795A.pdf BFeely (talk) 17:05, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Google search

I couldn't help it, I took out this comment: "They are easily found using a Google search," regarding information provided by chip manufacturers. A Google search brings people here looking for help sorting through the overwhelming information, they don't want to be flippantly directed back to Google. Badmuthahubbard (talk) 19:54, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

wretched

This article needs to be completely rewritten. Wikipedia:OR problems all over. The lede introduces the topic as a method of programming PIC, AVR, and Propeller devices, but these in fact use three different, incompatible programming methods. ICSP is a specific method for PIC microcontrollers that uses a two-wire protocol. ISP is the corresponding method for AVR microcontrollers, that uses a protocol similar to SPI. Propeller chips do not have any Flash memory; so it would not be accurate to say they can be programmed in the sense of programming a Flash memory. They are able to load programs over an asynchronous serial port with their bootloader, which is really an entirely different subject. The present article is extremely confusing because it confounds these different topics together. The discussion of parallel ports vs. serial ports is also not relevant to the subject of ICSP, and would be better placed in a general article on device programmers. Yet it is totally confounded again: Whether a programmer is connected to its host via a parallel or serial port, or completely standalone, is not related to having a device socket. The presence of an Wikipedia:OR graphic (about RJ-11) doesn't help matters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.118.119.26 (talk) 08:22, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]