Talk:Juggling pattern

Suggested stuff to add

Just a suggestion, not a requirement. Hpesoj00 13:28, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

• Bounce patterns
  • Lift bounce
  • Force bounce
• Passing patterns
• Carries (stuff like ...)
  • Robot
  • Yo-yo
  • Chops
• Body throws
  • Backcrosses
  • Behind the back/penguin catches
• Prop-specific patterns
  • Clubs
    • No./type of spins
    • Flourishes
    • Alberts/treblas (these should probably go here rather than in body throws)
  • Rings
    • Pancakes
    • Pulldowns
• Other
  • Balances/ball bounces
  • Pirouettes/360s

I think there is a place for each of the suggestions above. However, many of these are specific maneouvres or tricks - patterns if you like. I believe that they belong as a different entry to the page about Juggling Notation. The latter should discuss the language and syntax used to describe such patterns reasonably, and perhaps consider the strengths and weaknesses of each notation.

Graham Head (talk) 19:07, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Answering:

Anything bringing juggling forward on wiki is welcome, I'd say.

Bureaucracy and moderation and administration and hierarchy of controlled science ;o) should close an eye here (german saying) to >>keep up with booming exchange and communication on juggling since new media, since >>internet.

thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.143.233.97 (talk) 18:39, 29 July 2011‎

Merge

Juggling notation heavily overlaps with this subject, and the two topics would best be treated together. I propose a merge. Fences&Windows 03:20, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

sources? references?

The internet has made many topics, new things spread and evolve.
Thus, there is few or no literature or °reliable sources or references° to such newland other than what is being communicated on websites, forums, blogs, twitter, eMails, sms, .. modern media, to resume it up.
how does en.wikipedia.org by the way define source, I mean .. ?

In juggling it is alike. We've had a boom of programs offering the opportunity to find or find out about siteswaps; we've lately seen forums, websites, profiles on platforms and portals spreading the fascination of, or the addiction to, or the ardour and enthusiasm on juggling.

Still, hundreds of years before the internet, people juggled and wrote many books about it.
Yet, all that was before is basic and elementary and historic too, but overcome and does not anymore fully meet the modern communication and exchange about juggling going on lately.
Thus:
We jugglers discussing here on discussion section or exchanging via internet are the very source. :o) Native.

Still, all was written to books cannot be redeemed and is common juggling heritage. And yet again .. few jugglers lately have ever read a book about juggling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.143.233.97 (talk) 18:29, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

kinds of multiplexes .. 'spreads' ?

hi, .. if you ask me, i think there´s a major difference between 7b-[34]- or 5b-[2T3] - splits (even + uneven height landing in different hands) on the one hand, then [35] or [57] multis (uneven only landing in other hand .. unstacked). So would you call these latter splits too? .. or wouldn't it make sense to refer to those as say 'spreads' or sth.? Or is that the 'cut stacked' throw?
Another difference is between multiplex only - like 7b-[34], 5b-[2T3] or 8b-[35] on the one hand, then siteswaps containing multi-throws (like 4b-[53]3333, 3b-cascade with an additonal 5). 217.84.92.129 (talk) 20:53, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Then .. can s.o. tell me, what in JugglingLab the option true multiplexing means, please! 217.84.92.129 (talk) 20:55, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Original research

Why, how, and where does this article contain original research and how should it be improved? Hyacinth (talk) 01:06, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

On the face of it, the patterns have objective names which can be googled or searched for on youtube, etc if they are not in print. Just find a source that A) repeats existing names and does not make up a name or B) take credit for originating the pattern. A == secondary source, , B== primary source. The sources do not need to be academic. Just try to avoid primary sources. Just use some objective evidence (like an article or a video). Original research means, in the case of juggling patterns, a new pattern. If you can find a reporter or teacher or hobbyist to quote, you are safe from the charge of OR. --Ancheta Wis   (talk | contribs) 02:54, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Additional citations

Why and where does this article need additional citations for verification? What references does it need and how should they be added? Hyacinth (talk) 01:06, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

see Help:Shortened footnotes. If you need a tutorial, you might try the Teahouse. --Ancheta Wis   (talk | contribs) 03:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Difficulty Values

I am the creator of the Library of Juggling (I can't prove this but please, just trust me). While I'm glad that my work is being cited, I think that the difficulty values should not be included for the various tricks, as they are ultimately quite arbitrary and therefore subject to arbitrary change. My information on names and siteswaps are objective and accurate -- with the exception of the "Half-Box", since this is a name I invented. Most jugglers refer to the pattern simply as the 441.

I am going to be bold and remove the difficulty values. If you disagree with my actions then I invite you to discuss your views with me here. --2601:8:9380:C4A:9060:FB49:15B1:66ED (talk) 18:52, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Why are difficulty ratings included on the Library of Juggling? Hyacinth (talk) 20:39, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

They are included as a general guide for people. Nothing more. I oppose any use of them on Wikipedia. 2601:8:9380:C4A:5549:FB7F:AFDB:FBAE (talk) 00:58, 25 July 2014 (UTC)