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[0.7] Feedback about Postponing G13

{{resolved}} Hello again. I tried to postpone deletion of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Douglas Richard Ferguson. The script gives me only the options to Comment or Submit. There is clearly a G13 notice on the page. —Anne Delong (talk) 09:55, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Anne -- this was the result of a silly typo. Now fixed. (Of course, ironically, in the course of fixing this I reset the timer on the submission...) Theopolisme (talk) 10:56, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

[0.7] Feedback about cleaning the article again

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This is releated to an archived discussion located here.

@Theopolisme: Please read the last line of that section again! (t) Josve05a (c) 21:38, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

@Josve05a: Thanks very much; this has now been fixed. Theopolisme (talk) 02:39, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Teahouse invites

{{resolved}} When accepting/declining a submission, Teahouse invitation should automatically be sent unless the user already has one. I think this is pretty easy, and makes for directing users to the location that is set up to help them. Hasteur (talk) 02:29, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Dup of #.5B0.7.5D_Feedback_about_the_teahouse above; already tracked in trello. Currently working on this, stay tuned! Theopolisme (talk) 11:07, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

[0.7] Feedback about time stamping of redirects

{{resolved}} Please read this thread and comment about whether the script can be modified to fix the timestamp so that the new search engine will search the most recent version of redirects, and thus not include them in the search when they no longer have the requested text. —Anne Delong (talk) 11:01, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Never mind; it seems that this is not a script problem, and is being fixed as we speak. —Anne Delong (talk) 16:32, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Force reload after cleaning

{{resolved}} As much as I appreciate the tool and the clever activity the inline refresh, if you take the click path

  1. Enter a AFC page
  2. Activate the "Clean" routine
  3. Wait for the cleaning to finish
  4. Click the "Review AFC" menu option

You are not presented with the AFCHR tool, but instead presented with nothing. As much as I don't want to go back to the server to get the updated page, the AFCHR tool is in a "final" state at that point. Hasteur (talk) 13:13, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

@Hasteur: Thanks for the report. The "BACK TO OPTIONS" link in the upper lefthand corner takes you back to the main screen and allows you to perform another action; I think you're saying that clicking the "Review" link when AFCH has already been loaded should perform the same behavior. Is this correct? Just trying to make sure I understand what you're requesting :) Theopolisme (talk) 21:56, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
"Back to options" is an option but I almost think that re-painting the page overall would be a better functionality since the text claims it was reloaded. If the text said "Changes displayed here" instead of "reloaded automatically" it would be more normal web page behavior. Hasteur (talk) 23:50, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
That would remove all the diff links/log of changes, which is not desirable. Back to options is not just an option, btw... it's been implemented since v0.2. Thanks, Theopolisme (talk) 00:32, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

I have now updated the script so that clicking the "Review (AFCH)" link when an instance is already open will refresh the instance and return to the main options panel. I'm going to go ahead and mark this as a resolved -- if I've jumped the gun, please feel free to comment here again and we can continue to discuss alternate solutions. Theopolisme (talk) 02:28, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

DEFAULTSORT

{{resolved}} When we accept a biography we are asked to populate LISTAS for the talk page. PLease could you consider also population DEFAULTSORT for the article page at the same time and from the same data? Fiddle Faddle 12:10, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Tim! The tool actually already updates DEFAULTSORT as well -- I agree, though, that it isn't made especially clear right now. In the rewrite script this should be more intuitive. :) Theopolisme (talk) 22:16, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Unable to open the tool/gadget

{{resolved}} It won't open on User:Mycroft Sanchez/sandbox/, is this due to the articles name? (t) Josve05a (c) 13:24, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed now! Theopolisme (talk) 23:00, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Sending message to user about accepting article

{{resolved}} In this edit it didn't put the template-message under a seperate section/headr. Why not? (t) Josve05a (c) 13:15, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

@Josve05a: Thanks for the report! I've fixed this now. Theopolisme (talk) 23:01, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Where is the "Submission is improperly sourced" decline option?

{{resolved}} I have just started using this script and ran into a snag on my first try. Declining due to either total absence of references or no reliable independent sources is one of the most common reasons to decline a submission - but that decline reason is not in this new script. Declining as not notable might be an alternative except that when there are no references at all it is actually impossible to form an opinion about notability - without any sources we simply cannot know whether the subject is notable or not. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:01, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

This decline reason is particularly needed for cases where the text of the article makes it very likely that the subject is notable (a professor, for example, or an actor who has won an Oscar, or an Olympic athlete), but reliable sources are needed to verify the information. —Anne Delong (talk) 18:02, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

@Anne Delong and Dodger67: I think you are mistaken; this decline option is included in the decline rationale list under "Submission content". Screenshot (second item) Are you saying that it is not appearing for you? My apologies if I've missed anything. Theopolisme (talk) 21:21, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

@Theopolisme: Now that I've seen your screenshot I realize that actually the entire "Submission content" section was not showing earlier today - but now it is. Something must have changed in the last few hours that fixed the problem. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:46, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
@Dodger67:I'm glad it's working now. That's very odd, as I haven't made any changes to helper script in around 24 hours (and none to that section of the code in weeks). Let me know if the issue crops up again, and we can investigate further (perhaps there is an issue with MediaWiki's core script loading functionality?). Theopolisme (talk) 21:50, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Happy to hear that this item is included. I will check for it the next few times I use the list just in case it's a gremlin. —Anne Delong (talk) 22:35, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Talk pages?

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Hello again, Theopolisme. I haven't accepted any Draft: submissions that have talk pages, so I can't check this for myself. I presume that if a draft is accepted, the script checks for this and moves the talk page if it exists. Right? —Anne Delong (talk) 15:38, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to call me Theo if you'd like to save a few characters. :) Actually, no! Great catch of something I forgot to implement (*looks away guiltily*). I'll get on this soon. Theopolisme (talk) 00:07, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
  • You should get to it VERY soon as I plan on starting to break the comments and AFC templates out of mainspace and put them in talk space like they are suppose to be next week. Templates I expect to land on /editnotice as well so they can be seen on all pages. — {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 12:58, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Wait a sec, what? You're moving AFC templates/comment to the talk pages too? I knew that was the general idea, but how are users going to see them? Is there a link to a consensus for this? Editnotices are only seen "when editing"...this sounds like something that would require an extension (:P), at which point the whole idea of templates at all is a waste and we should just use a db table... Have I been under a rock recently? Theopolisme (talk) 15:21, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
@Technical 13: Wait what? "as I plan on starting to break the comments and AFC templates out of mainspace and put them in talk space like they are suppose to be next week." Do you have consensus for this change? (t) Josve05a (c) 16:46, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
  • It was the consensus and whole purpose for creating the draft namespace in the first place. So, yes. — {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 19:24, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Link to that consensus... I don't think a consensus for what you're suggesting exists. To have the AFC submission banner on the Talk page will mean annother click that a reviewer has to make when doing reviews. To have the AFC submission banner on the talk page means that the "article" won't show any difference when a new user submits it, meaning we'll get hordes of the submits on the same page. Having the AFC comments on the talk page means that both reviewer and advocate for the subject have to read the talk page to improve. I see a valid case for "on acceptance" of a AFC submission moving the AFC comments to the talk page, but definitely not before. Hasteur (talk) 19:47, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
  • There is a difference between a consensus that articles-in-waiting should have have talk pages so that discussion among contributing authors can begin and a consensus that Afc comments on the existing submissions should be all moved to the talk pages. Please provide a link to the location of the specific discussion where the AfC reviewers decided to do this, because it seems that you are the only one who is aware of it. This is too important a change for the details and/or timing to be decided by one person. —Anne Delong (talk) 19:50, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

I've implemented and released a fix for the original request -- talk pages associated with AFC submissions will now be moved as well (if they exist) when a submission is accepted. I'm marking this thread as resolved, because the original request has been resolved. If and when clear consensus is demonstrated for reshuffling/repositioning of AFC templates/comments, please create a new thread on this page. Thanks, Theopolisme (talk) 22:55, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Theo - that was an important fix. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
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