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Section error
After when I saved the section edit, it was loaded back to the top of the article, talk, etc for most of times. When I click on section link or section redirect, it loaded to the top of the article, so putting in URL # follow by section name after the article name don't work, but only in the same article does. Clicking on section on table of contents worked fine, but URL doesn't change. I am in SBC Yahoo! Browser, but the Internet Explorer always worked fine. How can I change it to make it right. BlueEarth (talk) 01:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC) is not on the plan ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.134.25.91 (talk) 18:15, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- I believe I'm having the same issue; I have asked for assistance here. Timneu22 (talk) 19:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Policy on section title length?
I have a question. I think succinct section titles are more appropriate than lengthy ones, so long as they accurately summarize the section, which is why I shortened a couple in the Expelled (film) article, but then someone reverted it, claiming "POV" edits. I looked all over the Namespace for a policy relating to section title lengths, but couldn't find out. Any ideas? Nightscream (talk) 04:10, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
2 sections
If there are two of the same-titled sections in an article, can you link to the bottom one? For example:
Section
Section
How would I link to this section, instead of this one? C Teng 22:03, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
TOC
should the Table of Content contain See also, References and External links? i mean, i know it's Wikpedia's format, but i don't think that anyone goes to an article just for those. Usually, when you finish reading the article you see them, and you might even use them, but they don't sound precisely like "Content".Jimifloydrix (talk) 01:44, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- I think they should be in the TOC, and yes, sometimes I go to an article for the "See also" or the external links.--Patrick (talk) 05:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
On the page Lycopene as of 21:00, 28 October 2010, two images were included at the end of the lead section, before the auto-generated TOC. The TOC appeared, but was on the right edge of the page, after the images, rather than below the images. Putting a __TOC__ page after the image tags in the source still rendered with the TOC at the left edge, so I moved the images into the first section; this rendered the TOC correctly. Is this a bug in the MediaWiki software when there is an image right at the end of the lead and thus directly before the TOC table?
TOC hiding
Did I miss where the defaults changed so that the TOCs are hidden by default? It looks terrible! Ford MF (talk) 16:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- A related question: Where can I set hiding as default TOC behavior for a specific page (hide as in collapsed)? __meco (talk) 05:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- If anyone has an answer to the latter question I would greatly appreciate it. Otto4711 (talk) 04:23, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
TOC After Restore
On Talk:Spore (2008 video game) the TOC now has it's first entry as header located within a template that is shown before the TOC. Is there any way to force a header (or the TOC) to not show a specific header? Or does anyone know of a better way? Or is this working as intended? :) ClosedEyesSeeing (talk) 19:38, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
new line
I have a üproblem. on many pages people add an extra line between the headline/new section and the content like [1]. we should mention this here... or is it anythere in the wiki? mabdul 0=* 10:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Abbreviated TOC
On the Mel Gibson article, the TOC shows up with only the first sub-section headings and none of the ones under that. I can't seem to figure out why. Could someone help? Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- That's because the code
{{TOClimit|limit=2}}
in the wiki text, just above the start of the "Early life" section; see Template:TOClimit. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 10:57, 27 October 2008 (UTC)- Thanks! Apparently I didn't know where to look. Wildhartlivie (talk) 17:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Two column TOC
Is there a way to make a two (or three, four,...) column TOC? bamse (talk) 18:11, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Date ranges in section names?
I'm currently slowly copyediting the history of Jerusalem article. One of the new questions that this article raised for me was if date ranges in a section heading should use the ndash or not. The problem with using the ndash is that it would be a little troublesome for wikilinks to specific sections. Is there a convention for dates in article section titles? I didn't see anything mentioned in the MoS for naming sections. Jason Quinn (talk) 21:34, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
wgMaxTocLevel
At Section editing#Globally limiting the TOC depth there is a vague reference to a |wgMaxTocLevel=
for limiting the TOC levels, but no example, suggestion of format or advice on where/how it should be used/placed.
Could somebody (who knows how to invoke it) append an example. Many Thanks, —Sladen (talk) 11:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Floating TOC - when can it be used?
What does it mean that the TOC can be floated "should be used when it is beneficial to the layout of the article," and who decides when it is appropriate? I often use a floating TOC to remove white space from an article and to allow the narrative to flow. I don't use it when there are a plurality of boxes, templates, etc. used in an article because it often results in such a small strip of narrative that it does not make sense. The page states that "it can, in some instances" be used, but does not clarify when or what circumstances make it acceptable. I have recently been introduced, rather forcefully, to a small cadre of editors who demand that a floating TOC is not an acceptable format and any floating TOC should be deleted, which of course allows for the return of white space, lack of flow, and not ressembling hard printed articles. Some clarification on who gets to make the rules and when they should and should not be enforced. Any guidance would be appreciated. Cheers. --StormRider 20:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Alert! The request above comes with baggage and contains language that represents only one side of a dispute regarding Storm Rider's strong protection of his favored format. Here are the relevant links:
- Please read them first and factor them into any response. One admin has already expressed a willingness to censure or block Storm Rider for his "personal attacks and other such nonsense" in this matter.
- OTOH, the request contains elements that do deserve an answer independently of any existing dispute(s). -- Fyslee (talk) 22:22, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- No dear Fyslee, this has nothing to do with your ongoing desire to argue. The question above has everything to do with guiding all editors on the use of a floating TOC. This guidance will be helpful in your ongoing desire to conform all articles to the default style and will also address my need to know when it is appropriate to use and when not. I am glad to see you continue to follow my around; however, I do find it strange. It seems like stalking. Cheers.--StormRider 22:04, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Answered on your talk page. -- Fyslee (talk) 05:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Auto-numbering in the TOC
I am still a bit of a novice in the wonderful world of Wiki. I want to disable the auto-numbering system in the compact table of contents. Can you help? Is it possible? Its messing up my numbering system! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Capassist01 (talk • contribs) 11:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Please let's keep this discussion in one place. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. This should be dealt with at the MOS policy/guideline level. -- Fyslee (talk) 05:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Naming
I expanded with some general advice on section naming here, because Wikipedia:Words to avoid#Article and section titles is currently reserved only for maintenance of NPOV (see Wikipedia_talk:Words_to_avoid#Research_as_a_section_heading. Mikael Häggström (talk) 09:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Probiotic#Research was the latest victim I found of such sections. However, I could easily find worse examples on request. Mikael Häggström (talk) 09:16, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
References section
For a while now (maybe since I downloaded firefox 3?), the reference sections in various wikipedia articles don't, along with the reference heading and article categories, display. It's entirely random apparently. The same article will display one day, not the text. It's getting really annoying now as I often can't check these sections in proofreadings. What's going on? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 07:38, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Redirect from Help namespace to mainspace
Why is Help:Section linking and redirects redirecting to The California Museum for History, Women and the Arts? I can't find any good reason for that... Jean-Fred (talk) 21:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Sections template
I just added the{{sections}} template to Siege of 's-Hertogenbosch, but I cannot find any mention of that template here, or by searching. I did it by just trying it. This template should be mentioned here, but only with a link to the documentation, which I have not found. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
did something change?
On my talk page the {{TOCright}} used to perfectly align with the horizontal rule of the first section. Something's changed recently though and it no longer does and I was hoping anybody could help me out? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 20:27, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Making a heading that does not show up in ToC
I'm not sure why we have this section in the Help page. It is of no use to any editor, and may be of marginal use to someone running their own wiki. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 12:58, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Merger proposal
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result was merge into Help:Section. -- – imis☂ 14:11, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Contents_box limited info and duplicating Help:Section. Needs merging. – imis☂ 03:53, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- Eh....vb ery well as long as it's merged and intergrated support merge. ResMar 01:37, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- support I really don't see anything to merge, as it is redunat with content here. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 02:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- Delete or merge: The topic is covered fully at Help:Section#Table of contents (TOC). Wikipedia:Contents box adds nothing useful, uses incorrect terminology (including "Contents Box" in place of "Table of contents" or "TOC"), and the explanations are less well written than the corresponding content in Help:Section. I don't see any content in Wikipedia:Contents box that is not already covered in Help:Section. If the other page is merged rather than deleted, the redirect target should be to the section: Help:Section#Table of contents (TOC). —Finell 03:42, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- support per above. WP:Contents box is anyway not much used, with less than 5 views per day. I would however integrate at least a line about TOC in the intro of Help:Section. Elekhh (talk) 04:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
How to Create a TOC
Maybe I'm just crazy, but I don't see where the article says how to create a table of contents on pages with less than 3 sections. Someone may want a table of contents on a page in this case because they know and want to encourage new sections be added to the article, or perhaps they just archived their comments on their user page and don't have 3 new comments yet. MATThematical (talk) 06:30, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
H2 tag not creating TOC if styled
Hi, I was wondering why <h2> testing</h2> will create a TOC, but not if I put <h2 style="border-bottom:0;"> test</h2>. The problem is, I want it to appear in the TOC but it won't. --Bluesoju (talk) 08:28, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
- There is a break in your second example after the >. The header shows, but not in the TOC. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 13:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for your quick response, what if I want to change multiple things like <h2 style="margin:.5em; margin-top:.1em; border-bottom:0; color:black; font-size: 188%; line-height:1.2em"> test </h2> How do I go about that without using ; ?--Bluesoju (talk) 00:10, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- The colon has nothing to do with it. The markup must be on one line— you have two line breaks in the last example. The line breaks should work in standard HTML, but the MediaWiki parser does not see to like it when it builds the TOC. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 01:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- Misunderstood you sorry! Works now. Thank you --Bluesoju (talk) 01:40, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
two questions
- Is it possible to hide the bullet numbers in TOC – without individual CSS for all users? It´s for a WP-site, not for an article.
- Is there a way to color the TOC? It´s for an other WP-site, not for an article.
Greets, Hæggis (talk) 21:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, just add the appropriate CSS to your MediaWiki:Common.css page. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 22:29, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- And in future ask general questions about doing stuff in MediaWiki at the MediaWiki support desk, not here. Algebraist 22:43, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- Oh sorry, I didn´t tell that the perfect solution would be a template, ´cause if there is a second WP-site with many numerals in toc, it would need an extra-entry in Commons.css.
- The support desk of MediaWiki is death at the moment, there are no answers since months and the already in the introduction selectable site for my question ("Formatting Support (Templates, Tables, Infoboxes, CSS …)") is closed since 2008. I´m going to ask at Meta-Wiki, thanks for help. Yours since early, Hæggis (talk) 18:40, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- And in future ask general questions about doing stuff in MediaWiki at the MediaWiki support desk, not here. Algebraist 22:43, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Page blanking
This page wasn't supposed to be blanked, moved, deleted, or merged in any way right? 'Cause someone blanked the page a little while ago. I reverted it and posted a notice on their talk page, but I just wanted to make sure of what I was doing. Thanks! --Flaming Goldfish (talk) 08:00, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
TOC for subsubsections within a subsection
I would like to have a compact TOC for only the subsubsections within one of the subsections of an article. Can anyone tell how to do his? --Newwhist (talk) 15:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for but {{TOC limit}} may help. You can also try asking at the Wikipedia help desk. -- Ϫ 13:31, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- I was looking for exactly the same thing in the vaults a few days ago – to use in conjunction with a main TOC with depth limit because it had become unweildy through vast arrays of subsections. When limiting the main TOC, small TOCs for each subsection (if lots of them) would be a more manageable alternative. I came to the conclusion it doesn't exist but may be constructed... job number 50014. Trev M ~ 14:19, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Stopping TOC listing across linked page
Hi
On the page Talk:Turkish invasion of Cyprus I have created a hide bar (section at bottom)
The problem is that although the bar transcludes a page Talk:Turkish_invasion_of_Cyprus/Rfcjuly2010oldcomments into the bar the contents are also showing up in the TOC. Is there any way to prevent thenm from showing in the Talk:Turkish invasion of Cyprus TOC?
thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 22:57, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- You are transcluding a page that has sections, therefore the sections will show in the TOC. You can remove the section markup and replace it with bold markup. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 00:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from 71.130.106.81, 15 September 2010
71.130.106.81 (talk) 23:18, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Salvio Let's talk 'bout it! 00:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- SPAM bot trying the waters. Just after this, an ad to a BMW forum showed up.
- Jeffrey Walton Noloader (talk) 19:06, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
TOC Collapsed (on initial view)
Hi All,
I have a TOC that is similar to this page's TOC. Its one massive run-on, and looks like fido's ass with all the white space. The page is offsite at http://www.cryptopp.com/wiki/Linux. Also, {{TOC limit|limit=2}} results in an unknown template.
I'd like to specify that the page be served up with the TOC collapsed. How does on perform the magic?
The same question was asked in TOC hiding bu User:Meco and never answered. But the question might have been skipped since the statement is a bit off topic for the title.
Jeff Noloader (talk) 18:33, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- There should be a setting in your Preferences under the "Appearance" tab. -- Ϫ 19:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Add table content to TOC
I have a list of Tables in an article. All of them feature a caption.
Is it possible to show these captions (or even a header or any text) in a TOC?
A | B |
C | D |
I would prefer not to move the caption of each table into the article as a section like so:
table_1
A | B |
table_2
C | D |
Marcel.kummer (talk) 12:11, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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