Talk:An Introduction to Animals and Political Theory/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: SlimVirgin (talk · contribs) 00:08, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Checklist

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Re: the red link for Priscilla N. Cohn, we do have Priscilla Cohn Redirect created. J Milburn (talk) 16:53, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply] "... one of the first works to link the ethical question of animal rights to political philosophy and political theory." Not sure this is correct as written; better to say something like it's one of the first to examine animal rights in terms of theories of justice. I've had trouble with that line, but it's part of what makes the book worth talking about; how's "one of the first works to link the ethical question of animal rights to the concept of justice as used in political philosophy and political theory"? J Milburn (talk) 16:53, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply] This could use a tweak: "Finally, Cochrane considers what he calls "radical" critics of Singer ...". He doesn't really say that. He writes that "[w]hat Reagan is putting forward here is really radical," and he doesn't mention Nussbaum at all in terms of radical criticism, or radicalism, that I can see (Nussbaum is fairly conservative). I've not got the book to hand right now- I'll check this tomorrow. I remember being surprised that he considered Nussbaum "radical", so I think he does say it elsewhere (perhaps in the chapter summary). J Milburn (talk) 16:53, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply] focusses --> focuses Fixed. J Milburn (talk) 16:53, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply] Something missing here: "However, he focuses the remainder of the chapter to four critiques of this line of thought." Changed to "devotes", which I assume I meant to write. J Milburn (talk) 16:53, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply] This is a preference issue, but first, second, third, fourth – or even first, secondly, etc – is better than firstly, secondly. Changed. J Milburn (talk) 16:53, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply] Another preference issue: consider breaking up some of the longer paragraphs, e.g. the one beginning "Chapter five assesses ..." Done, but I was trying to avoid a "paragraph per chapter" approach; any ideas on how I can rework it to avoid that? Or do you think it doesn't matter? J Milburn (talk) 16:53, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply] Can this be tweaked? "... he criticises the possibility that this exploitation is caused by capitalism ..." He probably isn't criticizing the possibility. Changed to "...but he is critical of the argument that this exploitation is caused..." J Milburn (talk) 16:53, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply] "the two relationships of oppression": not really clear what that means. Changed to "four ways in which the oppression of women and of animals may be linked". J Milburn (talk) 16:53, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply] Also not clear: that they may be linked through "ideas about dominion over nature, the cultural exaltation of meat-eating, the use of language and through objectification." I see what you might mean by the second two, and I can perhaps guess about the first two, but it could be made clearer. Another preference issue, per OVERLINK: I wouldn't link ordinary words such as "nature."
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
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	7. Overall assessment.

Discussion

Hi J Milburn, just a note to say that I'm enjoying reading this. I've posted some suggestions and I'll continue with the review tomorrow. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 02:22, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi- I'm glad you were willing to take this up, despite our past disagreements. I know this is an area in which you have considerable expertise. J Milburn (talk) 16:29, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]