Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ralph Lester Shaw

Ralph Lester Shaw

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Given the accomplishments, I don't think we should accept the Order of Canada as indicating the presumption of notability, (It's the 2nd highest, not the highest civilian award--The Order of Merit is the highest) The Order of Canada citation is in full "He has devoted many years to education, the community and environmental causes. His promotion of environmental awareness has resulted in numerous educational programmes for children and adults, including the establishment of the McQueen Lake Environmental Study Centre near Kamloops, B.C., and in his being named Conservationist of the Year by the B.C. Wildlife Federation." His book, privately published, is in exactly one library a/c WorldCat. DGG ( talk ) 15:27, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. His accomplishments just aren't significant enough. Only local sources. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:17, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - non-notable doer of good. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:51, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:47, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:47, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:47, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep We are not limited to only the highest, ANYBIO says "a well-known and significant award or honor", of which Order of Canada clearly is. Also consider that the next highest award is the Order of Merit of which only 24 living people are allowed to have any time, it's too extreme to set the bar of notability to only 24 living Canadians. But he's done more, "Conservationist of the Year by the B.C. Wildlife Federation", two Jubilee medals. Awards and medals are signifiers of someone who has done things that are considered notable and worthy of notice. He also has two excellent GNG sources.[1][2] True they are local but conservationists are often local by the nature of conservation, the awards are national recognition. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 06:32, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:23, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]