Talk:Monty Python sketches

Merge

Most of these sketches shouldn't require full articles. This list should be able to cover the topic from a broader perspective, and those that later prove to be notable can always be split out again. I've started with five for now, and we'll see about others depending on how this proceeds. TTN (talk) 18:08, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose merge The Spanish Inquisition (Monty Python) is notable enough for its own article. The information in those articles makes them long enough to stand on their own, no way to merge all that over here, they'd just be deleted entirely or left as pointless stubs with virtually no information in them. Dream Focus 19:51, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The OP asserts that "these sketches shouldn't require full articles". No evidence is provided nor is it explained what a "full article" is. How would merger be anything other than busy work just shuffling our content around to no purpose and inviting improper synthesis? As there are many notable Python sketches (such as The Fish-Slapping Dance which inspires our very own WP:TROUT), merger would create a bloated page greater than advised by WP:SIZE. Warden (talk) 20:21, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's not like this wouldn't have potential, especially with some general information on the production of the sketches and the like. For the individual sketches, some of these do have some sources, but really not enough to get more than a few sentences a piece. One paragraph describing the sketch (there is no need for a four paragraph long plot summary for two to ten minute sketches, and there is also the episode list that needs to be fleshed out), one paragraph for production information, and one for reception/cultural impact would be ideal. Removing some of the really silly stuff like the cheese list in one of the articles and other stuff would get most of these down to a reasonable size. It's not like it would be all of them, nor would all of them be permanently stuck here. If they actually do show potential, splitting them out without all of the unsourced information and giant plot summaries would produce better articles should they get to that point. TTN (talk) 21:31, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have some experience editing these articles and so am quite sure that items like the list of cheeses are exactly what our readership wants and creates. If they wanted material along the lines you suggest then that's what we'd have. But I'm not here for the full 30 minutes. Suffice it to say that your arguments are unconvincing and my !vote stands. Warden (talk) 21:44, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]