Talk:Democratic Programme

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Query

"The Programme was a vital document leading to the Irish War of Independence and the establishment from 1919 of the Irish Republic." Pick me up if I'm wrong, anyone, but the war and the republic had been started / founded on the very same day as the Programme was adopted.Red Hurley (talk) 21:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding is that the War 'de facto' began the same day by the Irish Volunteers, although the action was not specifically authorised 'de iure' by the Dáil until later in the year, when the I.V.'s had been renamed the IRA - is that correct? Oisinoc (talk) 07:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The debate on its practicality

A brief aside on who Brian Farrell is? Is there a source for the Fr. O'Kennedy quote? "It is still arguable..." by who? Is there a quote/source available? "...whether the programme was a cynical and unworkable attempt to secure on-going support from the poorer part of the population, or a genuine plan that was shelved but which should be put into effect unaltered in today's very different Ireland...": that's loaded with a lot of debate - any quotes/sources available? "Unionists in Northern Ireland will say..." who? Quotes/sources? "...that its impractical financial nature confirms why their political forebears could not consider unity with the nationalist part of Ireland..." again, a lot going on in that sentence - sources/quotes? "Socialists argue..." who? Quotes/sources? Oisinoc (talk) 07:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Programme's vision

'The programme outlined a socialist policy'. In fact the programme was the product of an amalgam of several intellectual trends, of which nationalism was far more important than socialism, and Catholic social doctrine was at least as important. The first draft, produced by Tom Johnson, was amended in many significant ways by Sean T. O'Kelly prior to its presentation to, and endorsement by, the Dáil.