Talk:Astronomy and Computing

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The second paragraph is adapted from the journal webpage, and from the text of the cited editorial.

Disclosure: I'm one of the journal's editors (and responding to a community suggestion that the journal have a wikipedia page). That's why I've left this as pretty much a stub page, and do not plan to significantly extend it myself. NormanGray (talk) 14:42, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed most of the text, as it was rather promotional (not surprising given that it came from the journal website and an editorial in the journal). Article creation for such a new and no-yet-established journal is vastly premature. There are no independent sources and it is (obviously) not yet indexed in any selective major databases. Unless notability can be shown (either by meeting WP:GNG or by meeting WP:NJournals), I will propose this article for deletion. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 15:07, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'm aware of this issue, which is why I kept the stub short, and noted my connection here. Points:

Length: Most journal pages are pretty short, and take their material more-or-less exclusively from the journal web site, because there are few other meaningful sources of information. I took A&A and ApJ to be paradigmatic here.
I disagree that the text I included was promotional rather than descriptive – I deliberately left out any argumentative passages from the editorial; but this is not a big issue.
Indexing: I understand that the journal will be promptly indexed in Scopus (unsurprisingly, since that's managed by the same entity). The application for inclusion in Web_of_Knowledge happens promptly after the first physical issue appears (they like dead trees, it seems!), and a listing there happens after enough time has elapsed to accumulate an impact factor (up to three years in the standard case). ADS will be taking the journal feeds promptly. Thus meeting the journal notability criteria is merely a matter of scheduling, and data plumbing. The page at A&C indexing should remain up to date.
The article rejection rate is already respectably high.

I would potentially agree that the page is a tad early ('vastly premature' is an exaggeration). But the absence of a WP page was noted by someone in the target community, so I added the inevitable page now rather than later. NormanGray (talk) 09:57, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]