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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Beyond My Ken (talk | contribs) at 09:18, 1 January 2013 (Data and copyright). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

improved table

please anybody checks the improved table for errors. We can then start using this one. --Spitzl 20:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

make only certain columns sortable

{{helpme}} I know there is a general way to make columns sortable. However, how do you make only certain columns sortable? In this case, it should be "Rank", "Country" and the years "2007", "2006", etc. While this is probably easy to solve (I hope), there is an additional twist to it. As you see, the table (I'm talking about the colored one on the top) is split in two parts. Is it possible to have the sortable buttons only on the left side, but still make it function for the entire table? Thanx for helping out! --spitzl (talk) 10:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please look there. If any questions or wishes should remain, please ask on the talkpage of the article.--Thw1309 (talk) 11:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It can't be done. The two columns will have to be combined into one longer column, and the colspans and rowspans will have to be removed if you want to make this table fully sortable. There's really not that many options when it comes to sortable tables, unfortunately. One thing that might help is to make the upper headers into a separate table perched on top of the main table. (You may have to get tricky in order to make the columns line up at all browser-widths though.) Lurlock (talk) 21:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, that sounds like a bigger project. Anyways, thanx for looking into it. The thing is, I'm really not good with tables, but maybe I'll try some time to transform it into a "normal" sortable table. I guess we could get rid of the top row and place the information somewhere else. Cheers, --spitzl (talk) 10:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2010 data

have added the data for the first 110 countries from the 2010 figures. Please feel free to add the rest. --Spigot123 18:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Beyond My Ken. Data can not be copyrighted. You can research this more and find out that this is true, or you can continue to look ignorant about this issue. I really don't care. Others will keep reverting your incorrect blanking of non-copyrighted material. --Timeshifter (talk) 08:24, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is not data, it is research, analysis and interpretation turned into a number. It is indeed copyrightable. Beyond My Ken (talk) 08:59, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Do some research. Repetition does not make something true. Facts, including data, can not be copyrighted. --Timeshifter (talk) 09:02, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but you are just flat out wrong. The index is neither a "fact" or "data", it's an original creative expression of research etc. You are laboring under a serious misapprehension. Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:05, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Think of it this way. The table shows Denmark as having a Corruption Perception Index in 2002 of 9.5. If this was just data, there would be somewhere you could go to find that datum that Transparency.org would have referenced to make their table, just as one might look up the population of Denmark, or its square mileage. There is no such place where that datum cam be found, because it originated with Transparency.org, who created it. They explain their methodology here:

The CPI scores and ranks countries/territories based on how corrupt a country’s public sector is perceived to be. It is a composite index, a combination of surveys and assessments of corruption, collected by a variety of reputable institutions. The CPI is the most widely used indicator of corruption worldwide. ... The 2012 CPI draws on data sources from independent institutions specialising in governance and business climate analysis. The sources of information used for the 2012 CPI are based on data gathered in the past 24 months. The CPI includes only sources that provide a score for a set of countries/territories and that measure perceptions of corruption in the public sector. Transparency International reviews the methodology of each data source in detail to ensure that the sources used meet Transparency International’s quality standards. For a full list of the data sources, the type of respondents and the specific questions they ask, please see the CPI sources description document.

Thus, as I said above, Transparency takes various kinds of data, from various sources, and combines them together in some way to create an index number, a brand new set of numbers which is an original creative act. This is absolutely copyrightable, and, indeed, Transparency.org has a copyright notice on every page of the website. Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:17, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]