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Thead, tbody and tfoot now supported?

From the article: "Thead, tbody and tfoot are supported from Mediawiki version 1.18 on." Is this true? And how do we use them? --V111P (talk) 19:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Sort arrows

I apologize because this may be a stupid question. I can't seem to find the answer on the help page or the talk page archives. Why won't the sorting arrows appear at the top of the table in List of National Historic Sites of Canada in New Brunswick and related lists? Cheers, --Skeezix1000 (talk) 19:59, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

I think you've run into the bug described at Help:Sorting#Header styling, links, and markup. "Styling workaround 1" seems to work, using just background-color instead of background. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:14, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

That's it exactly. Thanks so much. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 18:18, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Questions

How do I change the font size or the font color in a table? Also, how do I add or change the borders, whether inside or outside the table? Allen (talk) 22:44, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

The standard Wikipedia borders are added by putting class="wikitable" after the table start marker as advised at Help:Table#Classes. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:46, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit toolbar

The "customize edit toolbar" is no longer available on the page linked to. AmericanLeMans (talk) 20:52, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

What is "the page linked to"? --Redrose64 (talk) 21:20, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

|-class=unsortable

Adding |-class=unsortable to a row used to fix it within a sortable table. For example:

Header 1	Header 2
Entry 1	Entry B
Fixed 1	Fixed 2
Entry 2	Entry A

A year or so ago, the code used for this table would have fixed the fourth row down, so that it would have remained in that position if the other rows were sorted. This is obviously no longer the case. Any idea what's happened? Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 16:31, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

The whole method for making tables sortable was altered with MediaWiki 1.18 in October 2011. Some of the undocumented kludges that had previously worked stopped working at that time. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:56, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah, okay, thank you very much for the response. Do you happen to know if this will be readded into a later version of MediaWiki, or do you know of any other way to fix a row within a sortable table? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 18:09, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

No, sorry, I don't make amendments to the MediaWiki software - I just observe the effects of changes. You'd probably need to raise a bugzilla ticket. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:07, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing Bugzilla to my attention. It would seem that this a problem that has been raised there before, but, as of yet, there is no solution. I'll keep my eye on it. Thanks again. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:51, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, bugzilla:31060 is the right one. I note in particular that comment 7 from Krinkle (talk · contribs) contains text "It was an undocumented feature that might very well be a bug in the original code" which pretty much confirms my suspicion of 17 April above "Some of the undocumented kludges that had previously worked stopped working at that time". --Redrose64 (talk) 15:09, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Section 3.16 : Tiny Tables within a text line

In Section 3.16 : Tiny Tables within a text line

I believe the wiki-code example, while working, is incorrect. It is missing several "close" commands -- </td> and </tr>.

I realize that this is "wiki-code" and that it works as presented, but it LOOKS like legitimate HTML, and therefore, to my way of thinking, should BE legitimate HTML. But since I don't edit at Wikipedia very often, I'll let others make that call.

Original version

Wikicode (table-within-table):

* <table style="background-color: #fafeff"><tr><td>This is a test table here<td><table height=11px><tr><td style="border: 1px solid black; font-size:60%">HELLO WORLD</table></td><td>followed by this text afterward.</table> This line is more text after the outer table.

Result:

This is a test table here
HELLO WORLD
followed by this text afterward.
This line is more text after the outer table.

Corrected version

*<table style="background-color: #fafeff"><tr><td>This is a test table here</td><td><table height=11px><tr><td style="border: 1px solid black; font-size:60%">HELLO WORLD</td></tr></table><td>followed by this text afterward.</td></tr></table>This line is more text after the outer table.

Result:

This is a test table here
HELLO WORLD
followed by this text afterward.
This line is more text after the outer table.

--William H. Magill 01:02, 18 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whmagill (talk • contribs)

You are correct regarding the faulty HTML usage. However, I think the whole section should be removed because it describes a kludge. Boxed text is better implemented as <span style="border-style:solid; border-width:1px">boxed text</span> which gives boxed text, although a proper use for such ornamentation in Wikipedia escapes me. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:40, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

And {{divbox}}. I think this should be removed. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 15:52, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Removed. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:46, 19 May 2012 (UTC)