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"few nanoseconds or less"

First, the timing depends on the energy gap value. Second, it is generally not correct to suggest a picture like

  • the "↑" state before T0
  • transition started at T0
  • intermediate state between T0 and T1
  • transition ended at T1
  • the "↓" state after T1.

In the Schrödinger picture, we will always see some superposed state with the ↑ amplitude gradually decreasing and ↓ amplitude increasing. More general, the moment of a transition is always uncertain, and speculation such as "transition started at… and ended at…" do not have a sense. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 20:03, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The moment (on the time scale) of a transition is uncertain (Poissonian statistics for a single atom/ion). Nevertheless the time for a transition (jump) is always shorter then statistical period of jumping cycle (interval between jumps) - obtained from density matrix ("superposition"). You can see (experimental - not speculation) it in wiki reference[1] (page 3). The probability for given state is very close to 1 between jumps. It is similar as the radioactive decay. A given (long-living radioactive) nucleus is in an excited state (with probability about 1) until its decay (unpredictable when but statistically predictable from this matrix element). But it does not means that nucleus is decaying - e.g. millions years - and we can not say (at any time) what (chemical) element it is (decay itself is very fast). 195.113.87.138 (talk) 13:09, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]