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My passport photo. I like people to see who they are talking with and in return I like to know who I am talking with.
You are getting very sleepy...you will not attack, obsess, swear at me, wikilawyer, or endlessly site WP rules to try and bully me to get your way or get me to leave WP....
Jimmy is watching you!

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Please understand that even though the WP DID page says I have a bunch of edits there - I have none. Everything I ever did on the WP DID page has been changed, so please do not think I would ever write such a horrendous page. I am sorry I have let everyone down who has DID, cares about someone with DID and even the general public, but I will be back! The couple of editors that work on the WP page find ways, by manipulating WP rules, to report that DID could be caused by literally anything including reading a book or watching a movie, even though the experts report that DID IS caused by childhood trauma. They also try and make the public believe that iatrogenic methods which can create a temporary personality state is actually DID! This is so Whacked! The NPOV rule on WP is often distorted as it is on the DID page and used to present fringe material as equal to mainstream consensus. It's a sad trend of WP - but it is how things are here.


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This is so good, even though it was not written for this site, I have to share it here. It was wrote by Tom Cloyd - who along with me was ran off the DID page on WP - at least for now. I at least will be back. Tom Cloyd detests WP and will never go near it again.

"I am a professional psychotherapist, and I treat DID. Wikipedia alarms me, for a number of reasons. Psychopathology is one of the most complex and demanding topics in psychology. Dissociative identity disorder is easily the most complex of the fundamentally non-organic psychopathologies. Why would anyone seriously consider non-expert sources on this topic as opportunities to provide "...cohesive, relevant, and informative..." knowledge? As for Wikipedia itself, its DID article is grossly inaccurate, distorted, and clearly biased. Major authoritative sources on the subject are simply ignored, in favor of biases which utterly lack research support. This is what you get when amateurs play experts. The distortions in this article have been around for years, and have never gone past the status of speculations. If you want fairy tales, look to the brothers Grimm. Science-based writing about psychopathology may or may not be in Wikipedia. If you're not an expert, you surely won't be able to determine the accuracy of a given Wikipedia article; if you are, why would you go there to read something produced by a bunch of anonymous amateurs? It just makes no sense to use these kinds of sources.

As for the consideration of DID and popular culture - why is this considered a topic of any importance? Any authoritative sources on this subject (and I know of none) will surely not be freely available online, but will be found in serious journals and books.

Excellent books, written by scholars and clinicians with well-established credentials, are readily available. I can highly recommend Putnam's <Diagnosis and treatment of multiple personality disorder> (20+ years old, but still superb), E. Howell's outstanding <Understanding and treating dissociative identity disorder> (2011), and of course the absolute magnum opus on this subject: Dell & O'Neil's <Dissociation and the dissociative disorders> (2009) - expensive but worth every cent." Tom Cloyd

Psychology - Dissociative Identity Disorder

Comments on any of the above?

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Show me the evidence that the SCM is accepted by mainstream expert consensus

Reply to WAID - Show me what evidence you have that the the SCM is accepted by the mainstream consensus of experts please. Your argument does not appear rational to me. Show me your evidence. I do not believe there is any, and what happens in that case historically, is that the minority/fringe POV falters and fades with no actual demonstrable truth or research to back it up. The expert consensus, on the other hand, is simply able to do more, and thus the culture as a whole listens to them. That is how these battles are won. I have complete faith in that - even on WP.
Writing for the enemy - What I say keeps getting lost in all the banter - I do not see the SCM as the enemy. It simply has no research to support the opinions presented. I do not care how DID is caused. I only care that the correct information is presented. I have never argued against having a paragraph in the DID article about the minority POV's concerning DID, what I argue is having minority/fringe POV's presented as equal to the mainstream expert consensus. Tylas ♥♫ 14:52, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Lol

Love Jimmy popping in - looks like you've made yourself right at home.

In case you didn't know, instead of hatting stuff (which still contributes to pageload times), you can archive it to a subpage eg User talk:Tylas/Archive1 by just cutting and pasting. It's OK to do that even if it contains other people's posts to your talkpage. WP:ARCHIVE has more information. Elen of the Roads (talk) 12:28, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He he.... Yeah, he is great! That is a perfect solution that I can live with! After this DID mess is all revolved, I will do that, but until then, I like everything in one place so I (and anyone) can easily find it! Everything on this page right now is important to the goal of getting the DID page right! You made my day. I come to WP expecting to be hit on head with a ten-pound hammer, but instead I am met with a laugh! I love it! Thank you for making my WP day brighter! Tylas ♥♫ 15:39, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I will be back soon

I will be back to WP later. I need to finish a couple of other projects first, then I will bring my argument here in full force. Tylas ♥♫ 16:23, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]