Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2012/August
Proposals, August 2012
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NEW PROPOSALS
Category is currently over 700 articles, and that is before sorting alot of the recently created 2012 Olympian articles into it. Propose the following categories based on existing templates that have passed 60.
- {{Greece-waterpolo-bio-stub}} - Category:Greek water polo biography stubs
- {{Hungary-waterpolo-bio-stub}} - Category:Hungarian water polo biography stubs
- {{Italy-waterpolo-bio-stub}} - Category:Italian water polo biography stubs
- {{Russia-waterpolo-bio-stub}} - Category:Russian water polo biography stubs
Should tidy it up enough for another 4 years at least. Waacstats (talk) 07:20, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
A few more speediable sport cats
Yes a few more templates have gone past the 60 mark
- {{Belarus-Olympic-medalist-stub}} requires Category:Belarus Olympic medalist stubs
- {{Croatia-Olympic-medalist-stub}} requires Category:Croatian Olympic medalist stubs
- {{Mexico-Olympic-medalist-stub}} requires Category:Mexican Olympic medalist stubs
- {{US-handball-bio-stub}} requires Category:American handball biography stubs
that's all for today. Waacstats (talk) 19:08, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- Should be Category:Belarusian Olympic medalist stubs, but otherwise support all speedily --Qetuth (talk) 01:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- Well spotted! Waacstats (talk) 07:14, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Catscan suggests that {{US-acrobatics-diving-stub}} should be able to take 60+ articles therefore template and category would be helpful. Waacstats (talk) 19:17, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Another template passes 60, any objections to a category. Waacstats (talk) 14:45, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
{{Kyrgyzstan-footy-bio-stub}} has passed 60. Also the following
Waacstats (talk) 09:39, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support both - although this will take all three parents of Gabon footy bios under 60, we might need to look at that structure some time in the future. --Qetuth (talk) 01:34, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Alpine skiing
More field hockey bio stubs
Polish sportspeople
{{shipwreck-stub}}
For articles about historic shipwrecks (as opposed to articles about ships that happened to be wrecked). I don't know exactly how many articles this template would apply to, but I run into them frequently. Might not be 60, though, so propose upmerge to ship-stub, which is what most of them are tagged with anyway. DoctorKubla (talk) 11:10, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support --Qetuth (talk) 11:28, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Comics company stubs
Telephony stubs
I propose creation of {{telephony-stub}} and Category:Telephony stubs, the latter being a subcat of Category:Telecommunications stubs and Category:Telephony. The telecomm stubs category is much too large and needs to be split up. According to CatScan, there are about 200 telecomm stubs that could be put into the new stub category instead.[1] Category:Telephone number stubs should be made a subcategory of the new stub category; its template would be unchanged.--Srleffler (talk) 05:23, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure the distinction between telephony and telecommunications is clear enough to make this more than an arbitrary distinction to split a large category in half - looking at the telephony category tree, it seems very broad (and closer to 300 stubs when you add more depth to the search). But if we can't find a better option, maybe it'll have to do. --Qetuth (talk) 12:57, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- Telecommunications is a much broader category than telephony. Telecommunications includes broadcasting, particularly radio and television. It also includes data transmission, including the Internet and wireless networking. None of these things is "telephony". Splitting off telephony will take a big chunk out of the overpopulated telecomm stub category, but it is also a sensible way to divide the topic.--Srleffler (talk) 03:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- Based upon the permcats, it looks good to me. SeveroTC 10:30, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Most of these things are already split off: we have Category:Broadcasting stubs, Category:Television stubs, Category:Radio stubs, Category:Internet stubs, Category:Wireless stubs as subcats already. But point taken... --Qetuth (talk) 11:39, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, although note that the TV and radio stub categories you listed are not going to be the most appropriate sub-stubs for most things that might otherwise be in Category:Telecommunications stubs. The correct stubs would more often be {{tv-tech-stub}} and {{radio-comm-stub}}. Given that those stubs already exist, a stub for telephony seemed like the next most reasonable choice for subdividing the content. I don't see any other good options for new sub-stubs.--Srleffler (talk) 20:05, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- Telecommunications is a much broader category than telephony. Telecommunications includes broadcasting, particularly radio and television. It also includes data transmission, including the Internet and wireless networking. None of these things is "telephony". Splitting off telephony will take a big chunk out of the overpopulated telecomm stub category, but it is also a sensible way to divide the topic.--Srleffler (talk) 03:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
We already have Category:American long-distance runner stubs without a higher level generic category, or even template! Propose the template and category for gathering athletes from other countries. Given that we already have an American category, the generic category is needed for proper structure. I would think we should be able to fill it from the perm Category:Long-distance runners. Dawynn (talk) 01:19, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support --Qetuth (talk) 05:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- The history behind the American category is that it was passed 800 and the only split that seemed reasonable was by event, so we created templates for each event and split out those events that passed 60. Though I wouldn't !Vote against this, some reasons why I would be against this split, It would almost certainly lead to oversized category, It would lead to some athletes being categorized in here but not under there country and others vice-versa leading to confusion. Waacstats (talk) 17:31, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Further split of language stubs
Some of the subcats of Category:Language stubs have grown a little large. Propose the following sub-families:
- {{Bantu-lang-stub}} / Category:Bantu language stubs to take about 500/1200 out of Category:Niger–Congo language stubs
- Move Category:Swahili stubs to be a child of this. (Swahili is part of the Bantu family)
- {{Madang-lang-stub}} / Category:Madang language stubs to take about 100/700 from Category:Papuan language stubs
- Split of Category:Indigenous languages of the Americas stubs for biggest 4 families I could find, templates plus cats if 60 stubs found, upmerge otherwise:
- {{Arawakan-lang-stub}} / Category:Arawakan language stubs (main:Category:Arawakan languages)
- {{Tupian-lang-stub}} / Category:Tupian language stubs (main:Category:Tupian languages)
- {{Macro-Jê-lang-stub}} / Category:Macro-Jê language stubs (main:Category:Macro-Jê languages)
- {{Oto-Manguean-lang-stub}} / Category:Oto-Manguean language stubs (main:Category:Oto-Manguean languages)
Note that most of the top level families have initialised stub prefixes (eg {{nc-lang-stub}} for Niger-Congo stubs), but the existing subdivisions all then go to full names (eg {{WestChadic-lang-stub}}). As the four american families listed are all top level families, perhaps initials would be better for those? (mj- annd om- are obvious, not sure about the others) --Qetuth (talk) 07:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Additional proposal to add to above: {{sign-lang-stub}} for the assorted sign language and manual alphabet stubs, double upmerged to Category:Deafness stubs. Category:Sign language stubs if 60 found. --Qetuth (talk) 08:08, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Country-level transport categories and templates
The countries listed below each have a population greater than 20 Million people. All of these are missing a general transport category. Propose approval for all of the missing templates shown below. For any countries / continents where more than 60 articles can be found for these combined templates, propose also building the categories indicated below.
- Category:Africa transport stubs
- Category:African airport stubs
- Category:African bridge (structure) stubs
- Category:Africa rail transport stubs
- Category:Africa road stubs
- Category:Algeria transport stubs
- Category:Angola transport stubs
- Category:Côte d'Ivoire transport stubs
- Category:Democratic Republic of the Congo transport stubs
- Category:Egypt transport stubs
- Category:Ethiopia transport stubs
- Category:Ghana transport stubs
- Category:Kenya transport stubs
- Category:Madagascar transport stubs
- Category:Morocco transport stubs
- Category:Mozambique transport stubs
- Category:Nigeria transport stubs
- Category:South Africa transport stubs
- Category:Sudan transport stubs
- Category:Tanzania transport stubs
- Category:Uganda transport stubs
- Category:Asia transport stubs
- Category:Asian airport stubs
- Category:Asian bridge (structure) stubs
- Category:Asia rail transport stubs
- Category:Asia road stubs
- Category:Afghanistan transport stubs
- Category:Bangladesh transport stubs
- Category:Burma transport stubs
- Category:Iraq transport stubs
- Category:Nepal transport stubs
- Category:Saudi Arabia transport stubs
- Category:Syria transport stubs
- Category:Uzbekistan transport stubs
- Category:Yemen transport stubs
- Category:North America transportation stubs
- Category:Oceania transport stubs
- Category:South America transport stubs
- Category:South American airport stubs
- Category:South American bridge (structure) stubs
- Category:South America rail transport stubs
- Category:South America road stubs
- Category:Argentine transport stubs
- Category:Brazil transport stubs
- Category:Colombia transport stubs
- Category:Peru transport stubs
- Category:Venezuela transport stubs
Dawynn (talk) 03:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support all of these, assuming they will each be non-empty for countries of that size (ie, no need to make a rail transport stub for a country with no rail system). The Continent ones are a great idea to standardise. --Qetuth (talk) 05:23, 15 August 2012 (UTC)