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Outside the Arab world

I removed the dark grey for strife outside the Arab world (though I left it for Israel, which arguably is in the Arab world, though our article makes no mention of Israel proper that I can see), because I couldn't get an answer from the talk page as to what qualified a country for inclusion. Greece, for example: what does their financial meltdown have to do with the Arab Spring? Iran I could see, as a forerunner, but we didn't include Mali (until I added it), despite obvious links.

So, do we want such a category on the map? Should Israel continue to be shaded? What would qualify a country for inclusion? If it's going to be 'protests that drew inspiration from the Arab Spring', wouldn't we need a world map so we could include the US and China? — kwami (talk) 21:19, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Should the West Bank really be light blue? What are the govt changes that have been implemented due to protests there? — kwami (talk) 02:13, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One should take strong offence to the statement given by kwami regarding Israel being part of the Arab world. Such statements are disruptive in nature and appear to be fashioned with the intention of inciting unrest amongst editors on Wikipedia. Regardless of what you think should be part of the Arab World, Wikipedia is not the place to air those contentions. And definitely not on an article such as this. Sonarclawz (talk) 10:25, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can be offended all you like, but the question remains: Which countries should be coloured grey? I notice that your contribution here doesn't actually contribute anything to the discussion. — kwami (talk) 20:19, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Neither does your contribution contribute anything. Do you have to raise Israel everywhere even if it has nothing at all to do with the issue?? Sonarclawz (talk) 14:20, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it does. We have a discussion at Commons as to which countries should be coloured grey for having 'related' crises. Mali is a top contender, but the crisis there is very different from the Arab Spring. Iran, of course, which we can reference. But Greece? Spain? China? the US? What should our criteria be?
As for me raising Israel everywhere, you might be confusing me with someone else. You can tell when it's me, because I edit under my user name. But speaking of Israel, again, what are the govt changes that warrant colouring the West Bank light blue? — kwami (talk) 00:26, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What about Iranian Khuzestan with the 2011 Khuzestan protests?Greyshark09 (talk) 20:22, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline of the Arab Spring

As an update to the entry at Talk:Arab_Spring/Archive_12#Article_for_timeline_of_the_Arab_Spring?, an article is now started at Timeline of the Arab Spring. Hopefully, it should constitute a proper parent article for all those country-specific timelines. Mikael Häggström (talk) 17:23, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest having a link to Timeline of the Arab Spring in this article. Perhaps it can be in a hatnote in the "Overview" section, or perhaps an entry under "See also". Mikael Häggström (talk) 12:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Title

Should we add the year in front of the title like 2010-2012 Arab Spring. here are the examples

MohammedBinAbdullah (talk) 11:47, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It would appear that Houla massacre has had the date removed. More than that, Global financial crisis, lyari operation, these are more general terms. There will not likely be another event in the future which will be referred to as The Arab Spring. People will give it some other name. There is no need to disambiguate the title. Jeancey (talk) 15:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mali and Djibouti

We have to decide whether Mali and Djibouti are part of the Arab Spring or the Impact of the Arab Spring. On one hand, Djibouti is part of the Arab League, and Arabic speaking, but is not Arab ethnically; Mali was directly affected by the Libyan Civil War and its Arab minority took an active part in the 2012 conflict in North Mali (both siding with rebels and against), but Mali is not an Arab country and not part of the Arab League. For now, the countries are specified both here and in the impact article, so it needs to be decided where they belong.Greyshark09 (talk) 21:23, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mali was involved by Libya's civil war and belongs on the impacted section. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:32, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Shouldn't Djibouti be colored in gray on the map as well?Debona.michel (talk) 12:50, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Latest News?

Where are the latest events about Mauritania, Jordan, and Oman?

Mauritania - http://news.yahoo.com/mauritania-police-break-anti-regime-protest-teargas-195057055.html

Jordan - http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/04/26/uk-jordan-government-idUKBRE83P0TV20120426

Oman - http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/police-detain-oman-protesters-1.1316505

175.137.55.62 (talk) 11:26, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Latest News on Sudan

There's an ongoing unrest in Sudan regarding the anti-austerity protests starting from 16 June. Can someone go into that page and help add it? Thanks 175.144.124.216 (talk) 14:46, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

- I agree. The protests in sudan should be tagged as major protests, marked in the orange color in the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.181.209.239 (talk) 12:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, its not yet a major demonstration. Only few hundreds of them protest it, but not thousands. However, I urge everybody to come and contribute more on the Sudan protest page. The protests is no more just a protest, but its currently undergoing in the uprising style. There's a lot of photos and some citations needed to be add on. Thanks. 110.159.62.170 (talk) 10:03, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Syrian conflict can not be called a civil war

Some one changed the map and chart in the "overview" section, calling Syrian crisis a civil war. However, in the "Syrian uprising (2011-present)" talk page, there has been no consensus on changing the name of the conflict to Syrian civil war. The map and chart needs to be changed back. -- Futuretrillionaire 16:13, 30 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Futuretrillionaire (talk • contribs)

It IS a civil war. It's acknowledged by even Assad.Ericl (talk) 12:18, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, user Ericl. This is not the place to argue about the Syrian title name. Please go back to that Syrian article discussion page and debate before coming back here and change or argue with. Until then, the word "Uprising" MUST stay for now. 115.134.116.182 (talk) 13:52, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sudan demo pictures

Can somebody help to upload some #SudanRevolt photos and pictures in the Wikicommon so that we could put it into the Sudan protests article? 115.134.116.182 (talk) 13:54, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Saudi protests

There's an ongoing protests in the Eastern region of Saudi Arabia following the arrest of the Shia anti-regime cleric, and two more got killed. 115.135.105.140 (talk) 09:15, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2012 conflict in Lebanon

Since the 2012 conflict in Lebanon are part of the Syrian uprising, therefore its null and void to put it here as another part of separate conflict. You are allow to either put at under the Lebanon section or the Syrian section, but you can never put this as another independent part of its civil conflict. Thanks. 60.49.63.145 (talk) 09:39, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sudan is now facing major protests

Sudan should be upgraded from the category of minor protests to that of major protests on this article's map and reference table. Things have escalated significantly the past few weeks. Protesters are no longer just calling for reform, but a Libya-esque uprising. This has seen coverage by many news agencies; Al Jazeera probably has the most comprehensive: [1]. A number of sources are available there that refer to the conflict as major protests, and even pre-uprising. I didn't want to go ahead and do this without warning or discussion, so does anyone disagree? JamesA >talk 13:19, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would expect major protests to mean widespread and big protests/clashes. IMO "more than 100" isn't major and the source says it was "perhaps their largest protest since unrest sparked by inflation began". I think an acceptable threshold would be 10,000 protesters or unless a reliable source describe them as major (CNN had a map classifying countries). Mohamed CJ (talk) 13:29, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sudan has NOT experience any major protests. Continued demonstrations, yes. Major protests, no. Thats the difference. The media sources has said the Sudanese has YET to bring up large numbers of them similar to Egypt and Yemen. So for now we have to stick to "minor protests"; although its still better if somebody can help contribute more to that article. And besides, the opposition has call for overthrow of the regime, but so far we never seen them bringing their supporters out to the streets everyday.

http://news.yahoo.com/sudan-police-teargas-protesters-friday-prayers-135139921.html

Myronbeg (talk) 09:34, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Algeria

Protests are already ended. So should we end it? And change the image colors too? Clarificationgiven (talk) 10:45, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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