Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Method Engineering Encyclopedia

This is about the WikiProject Method engineering.

Concerns have already been expressed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Method engineering that this is not an appropriate project for Wikipedia. The most important being that it is original research.

I am starting this stub to try and obtain a proper, well-advertised discussion on this matter. A previous discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Method engineering was closed with the conclusion nomination withdrawn with no outside votes for deletion. Given that three individual contributions are receiving strong delete votes at the moment, I would like to see some outside votes.

The three debates in question are:

Another set of related articles in this project is:

Capability Maturity Model
Capability Maturity Model Integration
Capability Maturity Model Integration SM - note this state with links to twenty five (!) highly detailed articles, of which so far, the only one started is ...
CMMIsm Project Planning

-- RHaworth 11:21, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposals

My personal recommendation is transfer to a separate Wiki for the Method Engineering Encyclopedia. -- RHaworth 11:21, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't that essentially mean deleting the articles and ancouraging their creators to start a new Wiki of their own? That's fine with me, but our side of thing will largely involve AfDing the other articles that you've listed. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:22, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One would hope that if the creators start their own Wiki, they would have the decency to go round and mark all their creations here with {{db|now on our own Wiki}} ! But if they don't, the conclusion of this debate together with an agreed list will serve as authority to delete without AfD's for every article.

I agree with the comment below that some overview articles can remain. There are two overview articles which desperately need to be written straight away: product software and method engineering ! (I see they have made two unsuccessful attempts to write the first one.) -- RHaworth 10:52, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with RHaworth's proposal, though I think having a brief article in Wikipedia on something like CMMI as an overview of the topic would be fine. These more in depth articles would be better served in a seperate wiki though. --Isotope23 13:25, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Concur. As with the Cantors some time ago, let the ME "team" create their own Wiki, to discuss and document their theses, and leave a link to it, on this Wiki, for those who want that degree of detail. In due course an agreed brief form of words can be dropped in here, to summarise the entire concept-field. -- Simon Cursitor 07:21, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yup. Transwiki to Wikia. Stifle (talk) 20:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I will try to speak with prof. Brinkkemper personally this week to clarify matters. Most of these articles have been written in an inappropriate way (as I've seen happen before when Wikipedia is used in a class projects) but I think there is a lot of material than can be salvaged here. Simply delteing everything would look like a waste to me. —Ruud 00:46, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]