Wikipedia talk:Using Jmol to display molecular models
Please contact also the 'Blue Obelisk Movement'
You should contact people from the Blue Obelisk Movement. Possible extensions and possibilities of the actual ideas would be:
- using JChemPaint which uses the CDK to edit structures and visualize them in 2D.
- storing structures and meta data in Chemical Markup Language, e.g. boilding points, etc.
- Categorizing every data would allow some fancy mining ideas.
Comments and suggestions on the Jmol Extension ?
Then, please add them directly in the discussion page dedicated to the Jmol Extension on MediaWiki in the Jmol Wiki. NicoV 20:55, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- All right JKW 22:42, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- I dropped an e-mail on the Blue Obelisk mailing list that your recommended page should be used to exchange all ideas, technical issues, and everything else which is necessary to get Jmol and other chemical tools to work together with Mediawiki. JKW 23:01, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- I entirely agree that all discussion about Jmol and MediaWiki should take place at the Jmol Wiki discussion page. Wikipedia:Using Jmol to display molecular models is concerned with how we use Jmol on Wikipedia, but the next step is to get the applet and scripts installed on the Wikipedia servers. I am waiting until NicoV has completed the current extensions before trying to get this done. JKW - thanks for alerting to me on my talk page to the edits all over that had occurred while I slept on the the other side of the world. --Bduke 01:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
- Just to be really clear on this! Especially in the area of small molecules there is still a huge problem with collecting high quality data, since many people have many ideas which properties are the 'real' properties. Since there was and still is a huge Cheminformatics community forcing more open standards, open data, and open access I hope really that Wikipedia supports all those efforts.
- Means, beside the visualization Wikipedia or other Mediawiki servers might become THE standard for storing and collecting data in a highly verbose and open way. This is especially in this area crucial, since for example Mediawiki talk pages might be used to establish a common view why some properties are preferred in favour of others. This is true knowledge building!
- I am really looking forward for any positive' news in this direction.
- JKW 21:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- I entirely agree that all discussion about Jmol and MediaWiki should take place at the Jmol Wiki discussion page. Wikipedia:Using Jmol to display molecular models is concerned with how we use Jmol on Wikipedia, but the next step is to get the applet and scripts installed on the Wikipedia servers. I am waiting until NicoV has completed the current extensions before trying to get this done. JKW - thanks for alerting to me on my talk page to the edits all over that had occurred while I slept on the the other side of the world. --Bduke 01:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
- I dropped an e-mail on the Blue Obelisk mailing list that your recommended page should be used to exchange all ideas, technical issues, and everything else which is necessary to get Jmol and other chemical tools to work together with Mediawiki. JKW 23:01, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- Jmol extension is really useful --Pansanel 07:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Many molecular structures are difficult to handle in 2D sketch. A 3D visualization software is great for this job. For example, calixarene derivatives have a cone shape. Such molecule can really better understand with a 3D interactive tool.
To keep you informed: I have redesigned the Jmol Extension this weekend (much cleaner source code) and the new format (only <jmol> tags) is working. I will start working on the other ideas. Check the official page for the Jmol Extension. NicoV 21:44, 10 April 2006 (UTC)