Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2011/December

Proposals, December 2011

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NEW PROPOSALS

Maths Stubs sub-sub-categories

Several of the subcategories of {{math-stub}} have gotten quite large, especially since there is plenty more in the parent category still to sort. I've done some counts (listed on my user page), and it looks like:

{{algebra-stub}} (~400) could easily be subdivided in {{algebra-abstract-stub}} (~250) and {{algebra-linear-stub}} (~70). {{algebra-abstract-stub}} could then further be split into {{algebra-group-stub}} with ~150 articles part of the Group theory category, or maybe even further.
{{geometry-stub}} has over 600 articles, over a hundred each of which could be in {{geometry-diff-stub}} or {{geometry-elementary-stub}}
It would be good to sort out the stubs not directly on maths from {{math-stub}} - There are already sub-types for mathematicians, literature, and journals, but there are ~40 articles in {{math-stub}} which are organisations, awards, programs or conferences. I can't think of a category name, but I'd like to collect these together, possibly with the literature stubs as a child of this.
{{crypto-stub}} has about 50 people in it. Should these go into a new {{crypto-bio}} or be sorted into the {{mathematician-stub}} tree? --Qetuth (talk) 03:18, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
(almost forgot) {{knot-theory-stub}} as a subcategory of {{topology-stub}} (~240). There are at least 50 knot-theory stubs, most in topology stub, but a few incorrectly added to {{knot-stub}} --Qetuth (talk) 03:39, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

This all looks good, nice work :) My comments are:

I would name most of the templates in the opposite order, so {{abstract-algebra-stub}}, {{linear-algebra-stub}}, {{group-algebra-stub}}, {{differential-geometry‎-stub}} (diff is surely ambiguous?), {{elementary-geometry-stub}}.
{{crypto-bio-stub}} sounds like a good idea, with a category if exceeding 60 articles. Should it also be upmeged to Category:Computer scientist stubs?
They almost all follow perm cats, so the stub cats should be named in the format [Perm cat stubs].

Severo^TC 15:38, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Luge and bobsleigh bios templates

The following seem worthwhile, upmerged for now as they will take just over 30:

Any objections to speedy? Severo^TC 13:49, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Hip hop biography stubs

The upmerged {{Hiphop-bio-stub}} has reached 189 transclusions: speedy Category:Hip hop biography stubs. Severo^TC 13:22, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Italian music biography stubs

From Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting, create: Category:Italian music biography stubs To hold:

{{Italy-music-bio-stub}} (25 P)
Category:Italian composer stubs / {{Italy-composer-stub}}
Category:Italian musician stubs / {{Italy-musician-stub}}
{{Italy-conductor-stub}} (upmerge) (39 P)

Should be speediable as we already have cats for Austria, Poland, the UK and the US. Possibly there's quite a few other countries this structure would work for; I will add looking into it to my list (which has been bloated by Category:Persondata templates without short description parameter). Severo^TC 13:01, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Category:Wisconsin geography stubs

Split by county, there's over 1500.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:55, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Definitely and speediable. Severo^TC 21:09, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Already approved. No need to ask a second time.

Have tried to use this a lot.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:46, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Severo^TC 18:46, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Marvel Comics superhero stub

I would like to create a stub {{Marvel-hero-stub}}, which would place articles into Category:Marvel Comics superhero stubs. This would tie in with the current stub categories for {{Marvel-title-stub}} and {{Marvel-villain-stub}}. This new stub class would be easily populated, as most of the articles in Category:Marvel Comics stubs are about superheroes, and quite a number of the articles in Category:Marvel Comics superheroes are stubs. Fortdj33 (talk) 02:52, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Something grates in me about this: in the first place we probably would have been better with a {{Marvel-char-stub}} - although the numbers probably support separate hero and villain cats. That said, the -hero- stem is as good as -villain- stem and the numbers probably support it (though don't build the cat until the template is used 60 times) so I can support it. Severo^TC 18:49, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

While I can see the initial advantage of having a {{Marvel-char-stub}}, I'm not sure that it wouldn't eventually need to be divided into sub categories anyway. There are over 1,000 articles in Category:Marvel Comics superheroes, and a couple hundred of them are stubs. Therefore, if the superhero stubs from Category:Marvel Comics stubs are added in, Category:Marvel Comics superhero stubs would be similar to Category:Marvel Comics supervillain stubs, which currently has 354 articles in it. I would be OK with {{Marvel-villain-stub}} being renamed to {{Marvel-char-stub}}, and then all the character stub articles being added to Category:Marvel Comics character stubs, but that will make for one large category, with no distinction between superheroes and supervillains. Fortdj33 (talk) 21:22, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Are there any characters apart from heroes and villains? If not, I don't really see the point in a {{Marvel-char-stub}} as the heroes and villains cats won't exactly be too small. Severo^TC 21:41, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Of course, comics books have "other characters". These are known as supporting characters. In the Spider-Man comics alone, examples are: Uncle Ben, Aunt May, J. Jonah Jameson, and Mary Jane Watson, although none of these would classify as stubs. Stub examples: Lee Forrester, Christian Frost, and Dexter Bennett.

I went ahead and created the new stub tag for superheroes, and have started to populate the associated category, by updating stubs from Category:Marvel Comics stubs and Category:Marvel Comics superheroes. As far as the other characters apart from heroes and villains go, I don't believe that there are enough articles to warrant a {{Marvel-char-stub}}, so they can just remain in the generic Marvel stubs category for now. Fortdj33 (talk) 19:51, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

{{Slovenia-novel-stub}} and Category:Slovenian novel stubs

Or is it strictly by genre/period?♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:01, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Support - I don't see why not. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:01, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

We have a {{US-novel-stub}} so I don't see a reason why not - especially if {{Slovenia-stub}} is currently being used on such articles. Severo^TC 18:54, 7 December 2011 (UTC)