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Previous nomination here closed on 2006-03-05

Ook! programming language

Unbelievable rubbish (though probably true), if keeping this non-notable language, please consider a redirect to David Morgan-Mar

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:

MacRusgail 04:29, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. On second though I think DMM will not pass WP:BIO and that his languages are just not notable enough to be included. —Ruud 21:47, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect per nom, does exist though not notable. Only 135 unique Google results [1] --TBC??? ??? ??? 04:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It was invented as a joke, but it was a good joke. I first learn about it from Wikipedia and it made my day. Everybody (mostly professional software developers) I showed this page liked it too. By the way its description as Turing-complete is correct. Also, article is well written. --Vlad1 05:41, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Being a good joke is not a sufficient criterion for getting an article (or I'd be off to write The Priest, the Minister and the Rabbi walk into a bar...). GRuban 17:58, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Additional comment. This is an article with long edit history and multiple contributors. Wikipedia contains several articles of this type, see for example COW_programming_language, but Ook_programming_language seems to be the most detailed one among them. The article does not contain any incorrect or unverified information, and it is a good and amusing read. To those who want to merge, may I suggest a principle: if it is not broken, do not fix it. You cannot merge it withDavid Morgan-Mar (which is a shorter article than this one) without either loss of information, or having the combined article look ugly. Confirming Keep vote --Vlad1 02:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I'm confused. If you wanted them to be merged into his article and redirected... why didn't you? kotepho 05:47, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/Redirect but certainly not delete. I've heard of Ook! before but I don't think it is notable for its own article, but surely we can have them all in a lump. kotepho 05:47, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and Redirect to David Morgan-Mar. Royboycrashfan 06:30, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge or redirect per nominator, or to esoteric programming language. There are languages of this kind and I don't see how Ook! is particularly notable among them. JIP | Talk 06:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep quite good and relevant if it's Turing complete. And Vlad1's comment shows it's relevant to programmers too. +Hexagon1 (talk) 10:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete cruft. How many people are using this to write actual code? What academic sources have discussed the significance of this language? Whan new ground does it break? This is the programming equivalent of something made up in school one day. Just zis Guy you know? 13:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge or redirect to any suitable article. --Terence Ong 14:58, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Since when are gags encyclopedic? RGTraynor 19:54, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep Wikipedia is not paper. David Morgan-Mar's languages ought to be regarded as subpages of his page. So the question is: Would his page be too long if all content about his langagues was merged to his page. I feel the answer is yes. At any rate, this is clearly a matter for his article's talk page. Maybe merge all to Programming langauges of David Morgan-Mar? JeffBurdges 12:52, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, and redirect to DM. It's just a trivial translation of Brainfuck. If that deserved an article, I could make a program to generate an infinite number of Wikipedia articles. GRuban 17:57, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Although these are clearly "jokey" languages, each of them is, in some way, illuminating, and I can quite easily imagine these languages being discussed in a classroom environment. Ook shows in an amusing way that a Turing-complete language can be superficially very simple, Chef explicitly draws on a common teaching metaphor, and so on. I fully agree with Just zis Guy you know?'s point that people don't use these languages to write actual code, and that they don't break any new ground. These languages are useless for programming, but useful for the light they shine on their underlying concepts. If the general feeling is that these articles are merged into some larger whole, I wouldn't mind too much, but keeping them as separate pages isn't killing any extra trees, so for now I'm minded to vote Keep. WMMartin 20:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: please stop renominating articles just because you have failed to have them deleted or because you don't understand the contents: repeated nominations have been in the past seen as disruption. Furthermore, the point of an encyclopedia is not to look up stuff you already know about: the point is to discover stuff you didn't already know. It should therefore come as no surprise if the content of an article is unfamiliar or even looks stupid. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 10:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I didn't know this bad joke had already been nominated. --MacRusgail 17:19, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep if everything had to be deadpan serious, a lot fewer people would use Wikipedia. I wouldn't. (note, anon addition by 213.222.35.125: first edit)
  • Keep: Because this is similar to other joke languages like Brainfuck or Malboge does not mean it should be deleted. It is still funny and we need fun. (note, anon addition by 195.6.25.114: first edit)
  • Keep Even though it's not used for serious work, it's still a perfectly valid, Turing-complete programing language. (note, anon addition by 194.144.31.172: first edit)
  • Keep As as demonstration of how pop culture infiltrates everything. (note, anon addition by Akaihyo)
  • Keep: It doesn't violate any of the "grounds for speedy deletion" criteria; and if usefulness were a required feature of every article, Wikipedia would be a lot smaller! It's an actual language, it properly illustrates programming principles, and is also amusing to boot. I say Keep; the purpose of an encyclopedia is to gather knowledge, not to exclude it. (note, anon addition by Eringryffin: first edit)
  • Merge and redirect per Ruud - program cruft. --ImpartialCelt 18:39, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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