Talk:Comparison of GUI testing tools

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Junit

I don't think JUnit really belongs in this list. Regards, Ben Aveling 03:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eggplant

Eggplant needs to stay on this list. It's been around longer than Ranorex, and has more users. It's an important tool that needs to be in every tester's tool box. I've been using a combination of tools including Eggplant since about 2003. Ajfisher2 (talk) 22:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Age is not a criteria. Number of users is. I'll remove Ranorex as well. Thanks for the head's up. The list isn't for advertising purposes, it's an example of important tools. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:04, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, the reason Ranorex was on the list was it had an article. Its gone now too. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:05, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Putting Ranorex and Eggpalnt back. Creating a list based solely on number of users is a truly stupid criteria. It would be like me being paid solely for the number of bugs I find. There are many other things that should be considered when posting a tool besides number of users. Approach to the problem, technologies supported, licensing, cost, skill required of the tester...these are all things that are things I consider when adding a tool to my toolbox. By removing Eggplant, for example, you've removed half the tools on the list that support Mac OS. Are you a tester? I don't think you are, or else you would understand this.

So how many users does a tool need to have? My understanding of wikipedia is to provide information. I was trying to provide some. There is a link encouraging the expansion of this list. I'm going to remove that link because it's all about YOUR opinion of the list since it's impossible to add anything without you removing it and dismissing it out of hand. I have 3 or 4 tools that I would like to add in addition to Eggplant, but now I'm not because you've successfully made it a complete waste of time.

Eggplant certainly is a different tool, it works much, much differently than the rest of the tools on this list...which is why I thought it important to add. I hate to burst your bubble, but most of the tools here are listed for advertising purposes. It does things differently, so I thought it important. If you're so hell bent on removing tools because they don't have as many users as your tool of choice, you might as well just remove everything except QTP and RFT. Ajfisher2 (talk) 14:34, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to remove it one more time. This time, I would like you to create a page for the tool. If that page is standing in a week, feel free to link to that page from here. The fact that it has never appeared on the StickyMinds.com/Better Software Magazine tools survey as a top tool backs my point up. But then again, neither has Ranorex. The issue is that the page says notable, and we have to have some criteria for judging notability. The criteria I have chosen is popularity. If you would like to discuss a better criteria, feel free to do so, but do not place the tool back until there is some agreement on what it means to be a notable tool. I am offering two points: number of users and notability as determined by appearance in Wikiedia. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:45, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's also important to note that Wikipedia lists are not supposed to be a complete accounting of tools, etc. Besides there are already lists like that:

Eggplant is on three of the lists above. They state it's a Mac OS X specific QUI testing tool. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:52, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Final thoughts for now: Please see WP:Links before adding what you think are good links. People have been discussing this for several years and have come up with some guidelines of what makes a good link and what doesn't. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:32, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I've put up a page for Eggplant. I also do not see anything on WP:Links that qualifies removal. But I will do the extra work. I think notable should include, in addition to the points mentioned above, maturity, and approaches that are outside what you might call "standard" for GUI tools. All the tools on that list use gray-box testing. Eggplant is a blackbox tool, and has a decent user base.Ajfisher2 (talk) 20:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent! Hope the page survives. It looks like it should. We need more people who love their tools like you do to create pages for them. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:01, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What to add

I am reminded that this list should not contain external links by WP:NOTLINKFARM. Externally linked articles will be removed.

This should be a category list on articles no external links at all. It's very existence makes it a linkfarm

Agreed. There are a lot of lists of GUI testing tools, and many of the tools listed there are o longer maintained. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:43, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A list for GUI testing tools is also available here http://www.testingfaqs.org/t-gui.html. Maybe somebody wants to add a tool at this article's list. I would like to, but I have no time! 194.219.52.200 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:19, 14 July 2010 (UTC).[reply]

It's me again. I didn't see that you already had the above link at the "External Links" section. Never mind... :) 194.219.52.200 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:22, 14 July 2010 (UTC).[reply]

QAliber

I was wondering if you can include QAliber to the list, it is an open source project at sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/qaliber/)

Please let me know what do you think, Regards, Benny —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.90.236.138 (talk) 13:35, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You would have to add an article for the tool first. You would then have to ensure that it stands any challenges regarding notability. Once the article is established, we'd be happy to have you add it here. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:50, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added an article for the tool, hope it will pass the notability challenge, let's see if it stays a few days first. Benny Cohen (talk) 10:21, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the QAliber tool to the list, since the QAliber article stayed for 4 days 20:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Table?

This page would benefit from a table with attributes such as

platform tools runs on (windows, unix)
gui tech tool can test (Java, Swing, Awt, QT, GTK) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.46.196.231 (talk) 14:20, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There aren't that many tools. It would be easy to click through to each. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:44, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of GUI testing tools modification was rolled back

Hi Walter,

I added a and open source GUI testing tool called VANGA. I am a contributor to the project. Why did you roll back my adition?

Thanks,

Tervel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.108.170.8 (talk) 15:22, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Open Source product was removed because only products with articles are to be included in this list. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:39, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to create an article for the product please make sure it's notable first. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:00, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]