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The Jam signal is used in CSMA/CA and not in CSMA/CD

I don't know if this is true or not but the article says it IS used in CSMA/CD at the top and then contradicts it.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyxs (talkcontribs) 14:45, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nodes must continue to transmit *something* for the minimum packet time after detecting a collision, WHAT they transmit (more of the packet data or an explicit jam signal) doesn't matter to the algorithm.
Repeaters must also be able to repeat a collision so that all nodes in the network see it. Plugwash (talk) 10:36, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NO ITS NOT, this is false information

After "a carrier sensing scheme is used" someone put "NO ITS NOT, this is false information". I don't know whether it's true or not, but this isn't the right way to inform readers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.49.187.14 (talk) 15:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

how to reduce collision

references

the references section needs some cleanup, it doesn't fit wiki standards.

Stdazi 15:18, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Collision detection is not done by CRC

The article implies that collision detection is based on CRC. This is incorrect. It is an analog process -- the transceiver monitors the wire while it is sending, and if it detects a signal on the wire that differs from what it sent (because another transceiver is also contributing) that is a collision.

Collision detection is a physical layer function. CRC handling is a MAC layer function. The two are not connected.

Paul Koning 20:35, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Throughput

Some books on networking have curves in which one can see the maximum throughput of 0.1-persistent CSMA, 0.01-persistent CSMA, ALOHA etc. in comparison on a single chart. Such a chart is extremely helpful to understand the performance of the different multiple access methodss. Subwy (talk) 15:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No longer utilize

The article asserts "Modern Ethernet networks ... no longer utilize CSMA/CD". That is true in the sense that collisions will not normally occur (because there is one device per port), but surely all switches still have collision detection on each port? A recent edit (diff) could be read as suggesting that CD is no longer implemented and I'm pretty sure the section needs to be rewritten. Thoughts? Johnuniq (talk) 22:48, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Supporting something and using it aren't the same thing. Modern ethernet gear supports CSMA/CD because it's needed for interoperability with legacy equipment but in a network built out modern gear it won't be used as the links will be running in full duplex mode (where collisions can't happen). Plugwash (talk) 17:07, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]