Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight/2011 CUOS appointments/CU/Kww
Kww
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- Nomination statement (250 words max.)
My main adminstrative activity on Wikipedia has always been dealing with sockpuppetry in its various forms. I think anyone reviewing my record WP:SPI will note both my diligence and my accuracy rate. I believe sockpuppetry to be both the most severe and most common form of abuse on Wikipedia. "Severe", because it undermines the basic faith we all need to have that we are actually reaching group consensus, and "common" because I find that in every long term disruption, someone resorts to it in an effort to prevail.
Standard questions for all candidates
Please describe any relevant on-Wiki experience you have for this role.
- A: As noted above, review my record at SPI. I'm a frequent contributor, and my record at accurately detecting socks speaks for itself.
Please outline, without breaching your personal privacy, what off-Wiki experience or technical expertise you have for this role.
- A: I received my Computer Engineering degree over 30 years ago, and have been active in communications and networking ever since. I'm fully technically competent to understand and analyze all data presented to a Checkuser.
Do you hold advanced permissions (checkuser, oversight, bureaucrat, steward) on this or other WMF projects? If so, please list them. Also, do you have OTRS permissions? If so, to which queues?
- A: No.
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- The user claims a record of accuracy. User has in the past misread a faked autoblock request, and used SPI seemingly outside CU criteria. The issue is not simply the mistakes - mistakes happen - but that I haven't seen anything that shows how the user is going to avoid these and related issues in the future. Gimmetoo (talk) 14:35, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- I claimed a record of accuracy, not inerrancy. If you have specifics regarding your belief that I have gone outside CU criteria, I'm interested in knowing examples so that I may discuss them.—Kww(talk) 15:11, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- Which CU criterion supports using CU on an admin's alt account? Gimmetoo (talk) 15:30, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- F:"Request doesn't fit any of the criteria but you believe a check is warranted anyway". At the time the CU was requested, you had refused to acknowledge the existence of Gimmetoo from the Gimmetrow account, and were simply claiming to be Gimmetrow without providing any evidence whatsoever that you were, indeed, Gimmetrow. You were given explicit permission to unblock the Gimmetoo account from the Gimmetrow account as a method of taking ownership. You were asked to make edits acknowledging the relationship between the two accounts from the Gimmetrow account. You refused to do so. You have, to date, refused to explain your reason for refusing to acknowledge the relationship between the two accounts from your admin account. Eliminating the possibility of admin impersonation is very much a legitimate reason to request checkuser. You have, since that time, demonstrated that Gimmetoo has access to data sent to Gimmetrow, so everyone proceeds on the assumption that Gimmetoo is, indeed, a legitimate alternate. That it was very difficult to come to that conclusion is entirely your responsibility.—Kww(talk) 16:03, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- There are multiple problems with this response. First, at the time the CU was requested - by you - I was blocked with no talk page access, and nobody had tried to contact me before the block without warning. So, did you or did you not think this account was an alt account of an admin? If not, then there was no sock. If so, then it was an alt account, declared as such, and not a sock. But if you thought it was a sock of an admin, CU criteria says to report it to the arb committee. Also, you explcitly threatened me not to unblock with the gimmetrow account. (And, you were WP:INVOLVEd) Your failure to acknowledge or understand any of this doesn't make me more confident. Gimmetoo (talk) 16:24, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- F:"Request doesn't fit any of the criteria but you believe a check is warranted anyway". At the time the CU was requested, you had refused to acknowledge the existence of Gimmetoo from the Gimmetrow account, and were simply claiming to be Gimmetrow without providing any evidence whatsoever that you were, indeed, Gimmetrow. You were given explicit permission to unblock the Gimmetoo account from the Gimmetrow account as a method of taking ownership. You were asked to make edits acknowledging the relationship between the two accounts from the Gimmetrow account. You refused to do so. You have, to date, refused to explain your reason for refusing to acknowledge the relationship between the two accounts from your admin account. Eliminating the possibility of admin impersonation is very much a legitimate reason to request checkuser. You have, since that time, demonstrated that Gimmetoo has access to data sent to Gimmetrow, so everyone proceeds on the assumption that Gimmetoo is, indeed, a legitimate alternate. That it was very difficult to come to that conclusion is entirely your responsibility.—Kww(talk) 16:03, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- Which CU criterion supports using CU on an admin's alt account? Gimmetoo (talk) 15:30, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- I claimed a record of accuracy, not inerrancy. If you have specifics regarding your belief that I have gone outside CU criteria, I'm interested in knowing examples so that I may discuss them.—Kww(talk) 15:11, 26 September 2011 (UTC)