Talk:Extraversion and introversion/Archive 1
Total rewrite?
I have put the old article back for the time being, because I believe it is more informative that the minimalist description that replaced it. In order to avoid a potential edit war, perhaps we can all work together to not only produce an article that satisfies everyone, but is also better and more informative than both of them.
Yes, total rewrite
- I agree that it needs to be totally rewritten which is what I started doing (before you reverted it). The entire premise of the revision you reverted to is incorrect...The word is also used informally to refer to somebody who prefers solitary activities to social ones. Let's stick to the facts and see if we can get some public domain/fair use quotes from Jung, who coined the terms circa. 1913. Please, don't even get me started on the extrovert article...Extroverts also tend to have more sexual partners in the course of their life than introverts, though this isn't to say that all extroverts are promiscuous. Reading that really made me mad to be honest. There is no truth to it.
Alterego @ 6:56 PM on 10-13-2004
Heh, hey don't be mad, I agree that was out of line, but I think overall the old articles contained more information. I suggest we come up with a basic layout for a new article, you know, something like, 1. A basic overview of the term, it's origins, etc, 2. What introversion/Extroversion is, with quotes and information from Jung and possibly others, 3. What introversion/extroversion isn't, 4. External links, or something of similar form. In the meantime, feel free to put your version of the article back up.PiccoloNamek 23:02, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)
- I'm fine with that. I won't have Psychological Types back until ~Tuesday so I can't work on it until then. Also..lots of bad information != better information...
Alterego @ 12:46 AM on 10-14-2004
Is there some biological theory on why people are introverted or extroverted? If so, it seems like it should be included.194.47.121.113 19:56, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200303/rauch
This is an excellent article on introversion, I found it hugely informative. Anybody re-writing the introvert page should take a look at this. It states that introverts and extroverts use their brains differently but gives no details, this would be something to investigate. shockeroo @ 18:19, Nov 12th 2005
In answer to the question earlier, yes there is biological theory on why people are introverted or extroverted. The most common theory is by Eysenck, and is based on a balance of Energy created both internally by the Reticular Activation System of the brain, and externally by sensory input. In order to stimulate the neo cortex to a level of optimum arousal and therefore performance, both the extravert and intravert reguate incoming energy through the senses. Because the Reticular System underfires the extravert needs more imput from the external world. This is the reason for their excited behaviour and running around. The oposite is true of the Intravert, the Reticular system overfires and as a result they try to control the amount of energy through the senses and appear shy and controlled. December 14,2005
And we know this how?
Ambiverts tend to be moderate thinkers and weigh more than one side to an issue. Most have warm but controlled personalities.
Can anyone sight a source for this? As is, it reads like generalized speculation, not far off from astology. 207.6.31.119 08:11, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Extraversion vs Extroversion
Re MISSING SOURCE. In the article it is stated that the term extrovert (spelled extravert by Jung) was originally employed by Sigmund Freud. Unfortunately, the author has not found it necessary to indicate any source that would support his claim. While there can be no doubt about Jung's spelling of the term, I was unable to find a single passage in the original writings of Freud where his spelling was different from the one used by Jung. So if the author of the article (or anyone else) knows of an example in the original works of Freud where the term is in fact spelled "extrovert", I would be glad if he could let us know where, exactly, this can be found. --BZ(Bruno Zollinger) 13:47, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Re RELIEF. I have to admit I am greatly relieved that nobody has been able to show that Sigmund Freud had ever used the term "extrovert". It would have come as a shock to me if the horrendous allegation implied at the beginning of the article would have turned out to contain an element of truth.
An American reader may not realize this, but in Freud's time, educated people were supposed to know their Latin. A person who would have used the non-word "extro" in any combination would have been considered an illiterate and would not have been allowed past the door of any Gymnasium or Lyzeum, not to speak of the Universitaet.
So while it is not my intention to tell anybody here what to do, I nevertheless want to point out that it would be only fair if the wording of the article was slightly altered as to remove the slur on Dr Freud's intelligence.
--BZ(Bruno Zollinger) 09:26, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Today's society?
“In today's society it is generally seen as more of a positive quality to lean towards being extrovert rather than introvert.” Please be more specific and provide evidence. Does this hold across cultures? For example I imagine that Japan and Scandinavia have a different attitude than America or Italy.
Substance abuse
Many people who frequent bars and nightclubs are extreme extroverts, and are often vulnerable to alcoholism because of their attachment to the social aura of a bar. At the same time, introverts are by no means exempt from alcoholism and other forms of substance abuse; they may turn to substances as a coping mechanism for dealing with others.
This is interesting but speculative. It would be easy to speculate about the link between introversion/extroversion and substance abuse, depression, eating disorders, antisocial behaviour, IQ, job choice, love life, etc. But without evidence these are just educated guesses. Fionah 08:34, 21 March 2006 (UTC)