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Template:Archive box collapsible This WP:WSS subpage is for discoveries of stub templates not cleared by WikiProject Stub sorting which have been encountered on Wikipedia. Stubs that have been put on the official stub type list without discussion on this page or /Proposals should be listed here as well. If you discover such a stub type, please list it at the top of this page along with any relevant details. Do not enter it on the stub type list until it has been discussed here to determine whether it should be kept or proposed for deletion at stub types for deletion.

Instructions

To check whether a stub type has been discussed in the past, click on either the template or category link and select "What links here" from the toolbox on the left (set it to find only items in the Wikipedia space). Find the link to a WikiProject Stub sorting page such as Deletion or Proposals to see if there has been any discussion on this type previously. Checking the template or category's history link may also indicate whether the stub type is p[art of a larger group discussion at WP:WSS/P. Note: If possible, check both the template and the category, in case one has been discussed but not the other.

If the stub category or template has not been proposed, and is not clearly an inappropriate or deletable type, list it here under a separate heading at the top of the list for the month of discovery. Please also consider notifying the creator of the stub type by subst'ing {{wssdnotify}} on their user talk page.

If a stub type is of a clearly inappropriate or deletable type, it may be taken straight to WP:SFD. Again, in this case, the creator of the stub type should be notified, this time by substing {{sfdnotify1}} (for one stub type) or {{sfdnotify2}} (for more than one stub type) onto their user talk page.

July 2011

{{Pakistan-rail-stub}} / Category:Pakistan rail stubs

Unproposed stub type (presumably by a new WikiProject). Template is a reasonable idea, though it needs pretty drastic clean-up (it links to both a WikiProject and a permcat). Unfortunately, it's also linked to a stub cat,. despite there being no evidence that it will meet the required threshold. I've cleaned up the template, but it may need to be upmerged. Grutness...wha? 02:10, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Worse than I thought. The permcat is a substantial duplicate of a tree of categories already in use, so I'm taking that to CFD as well! Grutness...wha? 02:15, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

{{Netherlands-PvdA-politician-stub}} / Category:Labour Party (Netherlands) politician stubs

Unproposed, recently created. While in principle it seems like a reasonable idea, the fact that the article and permcat (and stubcat) use "Labour Party (Netherlands)" as their name suggests the template probably should have been at {{Netherlands-Labour-politician-stub}}. Also, the category's pretty thin at only a little over half the threshold (39 stubs), so it may need to be upmerged unless a further 21-odd stubs can be found. Grutness...wha? 01:55, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Given that we use -VVD- for one of the templates that did go through the proposal process, the template name's perhaps not a problem. The category size is, though. Grutness...wha? 01:58, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
At the moment the category contains 93 stubs. Wikix (talk) 09:40, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, that'smore than enough - but please propose any new stub types first next time! Grutness...wha? 00:27, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

{{Metaphysics-stub}}

Unproposed, but thankfully, it's upmerged. Seems well-formed and looks like a reasonable subject area - may be a useful addition to the canon of philosophy stubs. Grutness...wha? 01:43, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


{{Rock-music-stub}}

Unproposed, seems well-rformed, but is it needed? Rock music is already divided up with a large number of different stub templates, I doubt we have need for a general overall rock music template. Grutness...wha? 12:40, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me? Is "unproposed" even a word? How dare you jump to conclusions about these things. If you had bothered to read the proposals, you would indeed see that your corruption, and unconstitutional behavior has resulted in this. There is a proposal thank you. Puffin Let's talk! 12:46, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're excused. Yes, of course unproposed is a word. It means not proposed. Ah - yes, my apologies, this was proposed - for some reason the proposal was placed at the bottom of the proposal page most of the way through the month (rather than at the top), which is why I didn't notice it - otherwise I'd have commented at the time. "Corruption"? "Unconstitutional behaviour"? You're joking, right? Grutness...wha? 13:08, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

{{Slovenia-icehockey-bio-stub}}

Unproposed, and probably a good idea, though it would be better upmerged to the overall Category:European ice hockey biography stubs rather than - as it is at the moment - to Category:Swedish ice hockey biography stubs. AFAIK Sweden and Slovenia haven't been politically linked since the days of the Kievian Rus, if then... :) Grutness...wha? 12:40, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not alot of Slovenian players out there. I would probably upmerge to the European ice hockey biography stubs. But I am not against it at all. -DJSasso (talk) 13:03, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
According to Category:Slovenian ice hockey players, at least 31 Slovenian ice hockey players have biographical articles on this Wikipedia. Is that considered enough for a stub template? Also, regarding the category, that was an accident; I forgot to change "Swedish" to "European", so thanks DJSasso for fixing that. :) HeyMid (contribs) 14:35, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
31's plenty for a template. Basically, if it looks possible that there'll eventually be enough for a category (60), then a template makes sense. Grutness...wha? 01:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

June 2011

{{Pakistan-cuisine-stub}} / Category:Pakistani cuisine stubs

Another unproposed creation - the template looks quite useful, but unless the category can be brought up to threshold it may need to be upmerged into Category:Pakistan stubs and Category:Cuisine stubs Grutness...wha? 03:10, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment You need to wait, because I created this very recently and it will therefore take time to fill up. I am in the process of applying it. As for the usefulness of this stub template, there's no doubt about that. One just needs to have a look at Category:Pakistani cuisine to see how big it is the number of stubs it contains. Thats why I created this in the first place. Mar4d (talk) 09:02, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • The reason it's listed here rather than being taken straight to SFD for upmerging is that I think there's a reasonable chance it could reach the threshold, but the usual procedure is to ensure there are enough stubs first - which is why the proposal process page is there. I've no doubt the template will be useful, even in upmerged form - it's just a question of whether it can get to the 60-stub mark or not. Just because Category:Pakistani cuisine has a lot of articles doesn't necessarily mean that a lot of them are stubs (in fact, most of them seem to be well beyond stub length). Grutness...wha? 09:50, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Okay, after a bit of work I've managed to get it past threshold (not by a lot - there were only around 70 in total, but it's there). In future, please propose new stub templates and categories before making them, though! Grutness...wha? 10:28, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Greek military personnel stubs

Recent unproposed cration for the previously upmerged template {{Greece-mil-bio-stub}} - a template which has existed for over two years without yet getting close to threshold. Creator handily added the WSS-cat template to the top of his new creation (the one which tells editors not to create new categories without proposing them - sigh). If it cannot be quickly populated it may need re-upmerging. Grutness...wha? 00:52, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

{{Greece-mil-stub}} / Category:Greek military stubs

Same user as above has also created this new stub type, which may well face the same problems of reaching the 60-stub threshold. Template seems reasonable, but may need upmerging. Grutness...wha? 01:03, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

May 2011

{{Epistemology-stub}}/Category:Epistemology stubs

The idea for a template seems reasonable, but it may well need to be upmerged. If there are enough stubs for a viable separate category it at least needs some parent stubcats (Category:Philosophy stubs, perhaps?) Grutness...wha? 07:02, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I made the template because it was on the todo list at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Philosophy/Epistemology#Things_to_do. There are many stubs at Category:Stub-Class_epistemology_articles. InverseHypercube 07:30, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Stub-Class assessment and stub types are completely different things. Stub-Class is an assessment based on the banner template of a WikiProject (e.g., WP Philosophy), and for use by that specific project. Stub types are for use across the whole of Wikipedia and are based on the specific size and type guidelines, as explained at WP:Stub (there's a section of WP:Stub explaining why one is used by wikiprojects and one is more general). This is also why there's a specific project (WikiProject Stub sorting) which tries to coordinate and vet stub templates and categories (again, as explained at WP:Stub). There also seems to be nothing in that to-do list (or its history) to suggest that making new stub categories or templates is part of WP PHIL's current projects (expanding existing stub articles, yes; creating new stub templates and categories, no). Grutness...wha? 08:23, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. Sorry for the misunderstanding. InverseHypercube 08:31, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Easy mistake to make - It would've been far better if the assessment schemes hadn't used the word "stub" when they first started up. In any case, as I said at the top, the template seems like a reasonable idea, though unless there are a large number of stubs (the usual split is 60) it should probably be upmerged until such time as there are that number. Grutness...wha? 12:33, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Without delving very deeply into the topic, I brought this out of the underpopulated list. Someone with more interest in the topic could probably tag several more articles. Dawynn (talk) 14:52, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

April 2011

{{Potato-stub}}/Category:Potato stubs

Created in December 2010 by Nono64, populated by approximately 22 articles. It is a recreation of of a previously deleted stub and category (Discussion is here). --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 05:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

{{Goose-stub}} / {{Swan-stub}}

Unused stub templates with no request for these indicated; supereseded by Template:Anseriformes-stub. There was also a previous STFD on this template, which only addressed the naming conventions for the page instead of its being official or preferential to its parent above. Not really sure whether to propose these for deletion. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 09:09, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

March 2011

Category:Espionage stubs

Another one that I haven't explored to see whether to keep or delete. But where to classify? Dawynn (talk) 12:31, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Homelessness stubs

Still reviewing this one. It looks like we can pull several articles from the permcat (Category:Homelessness). Anyone have any suggestions as to where to classify this category? Dawynn (talk) 12:28, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

February 2011

{{Mario-game-stub}}

Propose Delete. Unused. Malformed. Never requested. Dawynn (talk) 13:27, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you know where to propose deletion... :) Grutness...wha? 09:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

{{SouthernSudan-stub}}

I was optimistic when I wrote the other day that we had a few months to discuss this one and work out with WP:Sudan what stub types were needed for Southern Sudan - this one has arrived unproposed already. I've tidied it up (it had a redlinked category and an incorrect, space-laden name), and upmerged it to Sudan stubs for now. There's not really much point in having a separate template yet since we don't know yet what the new country will be called (there have been several suggestions, and I don't want to suddenly find in July that we've got to move a bunch of SouthernSudan-foo-stub templates to Jubaland-foo-stub). This one can probably stay upmerged for now (no point really in deleting then re-creating in July), but a moratorium on other stub types until there's been some discussion about them (as there's supposed to be, of course) would probably be a good thing! Grutness...wha? 09:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It took that long!, I seem to remember Kosovo popping up every couple of weeks for about a year before it declared independence. I agree in keeping this as the one and only template for SouthernSudan till they sort themselves out. Waacstats (talk) 13:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
At the moment it looks likely that the country's new name will end up being South Sudan - we'll have to keep an eye out for variant names in templates... Grutness...wha? 22:14, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

{{Normandy-stub}} / Category:Normandy stubs and {{Brittany-stub}} / Category:Brittany stubs

Newly acquired without proposal; seem reasonably well-formed and potentially useful, though the inclusion of Category:Channel Islands stubs in the former category is somewhat controversial, to say the least (given that we use modern regional/national boundaries for stub types), as is their parenting directly by Category:Europe stubs rather than Category:France stubs. Currently pretty sparsely populated - would need upmerging if not more effectively populated/populable. Grutness...wha? 03:41, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Both seem reasonable, will try and see if I can populate them abit more over the weekend otherwise upmerge and remove the channel island stubs. Waacstats (talk) 13:15, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Togo Stubs

Found an odd situation in Approved Geography Stubs to be created, Togo geography stubs. The parent category has one subcategory at Kara Region geography stubs. The parent has 90 some stubs and the subcategory has 600 some. There are six upmerged templates for the Kara category listed, looks reasonable for 600 stubs. However, from the parent there are three other categories with four to nine upmerge templates also listed as approved. Archived discussion is a little ambiguous. I was thinking to remove the three additional categories and stubtypes from the approved list, since splitting 90 stubs into three categories / 20 upmerged templates makes little sense. Comments? Aelfthrytha (talk) 22:46, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Any idea whethr all the stubs in the Kara cat are genuinely for places there? It maybe that there's been some mis-stubbing. Or it's possible that someone/bot's been making lots of stub articles, and the other proposals will get populated very soon. Grutness...wha? 23:52, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All of the stubs in the Kara category are for places in Kara, per random sampling. All of the stubs there were created in May '08, too. The proposal at that time said someone created a crazy amount of Kara stubs, but none for any of the other regions. Aelfthrytha (talk) 02:58, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone? Help?? Aelfthrytha (talk) 23:23, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

January 2011

Category:Public art stubs and {{Public-art-stub}}

Appear to have been created outside the system, despite having had the "green box" added to the category page. PamD (talk) 00:12, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm undecided one way or the other whether a separate stub for public art is the best way to go - it's another axis to split art on other than medium and nationality, which are the two ways art would normally be split by stubs - and era/style would be a more obvious third way. In any case, with most WikiProjects a banner talk-page template is far more useful than a stub type, since you can use it to assess all your project's articles rather than justb stubs (see the section of WP:STUB on WikiProjects and assessment templates). Having said that, it seems to be in reasonable use. Grutness...wha? 21:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

National singer categories

The following undersized, unproposed categories have been built. I added a {{popstub}} tag that was removed with a comment that these were already fully loaded. If these cannot be enlarged, I would argue for deleting the categories, and upmerging the templates to Category:European singer stubs.

Dawynn (talk) 13:30, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

December 2010

Category:Women's association football biography stubs/{{Women-footy-bio-stub}}

Many sub-cats and sub-temps. Just created today. I have no objections to keeping them. Category:Australian women's football (soccer) biography stubs/{{Australia-women-footy-bio-stub}} Category:Norwegian women's football biography stubs/{{Norway-women-footy-bio-stub}} Category:New Zealand women's football (soccer) biography stubs/{{NewZealand-women-footy-bio-stub}} Category:German women's football (soccer) biography stubs/{{Germany-women-footy-bio-stub}} {{US-women-footy-bio-stub}} {{England-women-footy-bio-stub}} ~Gosox(55)(55) 13:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please refer to the original discussion found on this page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2010/August. As you can see, the main category (Category:Women's association football biography stubs) was approved, as well as general consent that national subcategories would be quickly needed. Granted, the national sub-cats and templates were not officially registered. I took the liberty to copy the name of the main biography category for each country and just add 'women's' into the title. So, the reason for inconsistent naming in the subcategories, is because of inconsistent naming in the main national association football biography stub categories. (And the German category is Category:German women's football biography stubs). Dawynn (talk) 21:06, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My bad, I completely missed that. My apologies. I believe that it's generally recommended that you get national subcats and temps approved, however, even though they can be speedied. (Correct me if I'm wrong?) ~Gosox(55)(55) 15:04, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep parent cat as proposed and keep the subcats as they would be speediable anyway, I think I mentioned creating upmerged templates in the discussion and that was supported do I have no problem with them at all. Waacstats (talk) 13:09, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

{{BS-geo-stub}}/Category:Black Sea geography stubs

Created 22 Dec, doesn't appear to have been discussed. Noticed it because the category had parent category Category:Stubs, which I've removed. PamD (talk) 23:34, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The template name is distinctly non-standard and will need to be changed, and there's no indication which Black Sea region these are for (if it's for the sea itself, then it's definitely faulty, but it could well be for a Black sea region of Ukraine, Turkey, or the like. Hm. Looks like it's for the black sea itself, which is also not a good way to split these stubs. they should be marked with whichever country has jurisdiction over the locations (or if none, with marine-geo-stub). And every onje of these stubs is already bcorrectly marked with that. Distinctly SFD material. Grutness...wha? 10:47, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to SFD. Grutness...wha? 10:52, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{Rhodophyta-stub}}/Category:Rhodophyta stubs

Created today unproposed. The template seems OK, and the category's almost passable, though it was an unnecessary split given the current size of Category:Algae stubs. Looks a likely keeper. Grutness...wha? 18:25, 18 December 2010 (UTC) Whoops - skip this - just found the proposal. Grutness...wha? 18:28, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{Arts-stub}}

Not used and not even using the asbox template. -- WOSlinker (talk) 13:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...and already adequatelyu covered by the correctly named {{art-stub}} and various other related {{culture-stub}} types. This is an SFD candidate. Grutness...wha? 18:24, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kingdom of France stubs / {{Kingdom of France-stub}}

My cat scan of stub articles for the top 5 levels of Category:Kingdom of France revealed over 1000 articles as potential stubs. Some may be false positives, but I believe we have plenty to justify this category. My only issue is the template name. But I'm not sure what to propose. Any suggestions? Dawynn (talk) 13:29, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Any objection to {{KingdomOfFrance-stub}}? Dawynn (talk) 13:20, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
{{KingdomofFrance-stub}} would be better. Grutness...wha? 22:50, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

November 2010

Category:SavanesCI geography stubs

With over 90 articles in this category, it is viable. But I don't like the name. I'd like to propose Category:Savanes, Côte d'Ivoire, geography stubs. Dawynn (talk) 12:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/2009/May#Category:Côte d'Ivoire_geography_stubs. As this is not a "discovery," the proper place for proposing and discussing category name changes is at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. --Kleopatra (talk) 05:38, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
While the templates, as you pointed out, were properly registered, I do not see that the category names were ever registered or discussed. However, I have moved this discussion, as requested. Please feel free to leave notes on the discussion page. Dawynn (talk) 15:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category:French film stubs splits

I don't see a proposal for the following small categories. I'd suggest deleting the categories for now, but keeping the templates to upmerge to Category:French film stubs, until these reach a reasonable size:

Dawynn (talk) 13:35, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support deletion Waacstats (talk) 12:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

October 2010

Category:Opera singer stubs splits

I have no complaint about the Opera singer stubs category, and the larger national categories that have been registered under it. However, someone has recently been creating new national categories without any proposal, and most of these are appallingly small.

I don't see a proposal for the following small categories. I'd suggest deleting the categories for now, but keeping the templates to upmerge to Category:Opera singer stubs, until these actually reach a reasonable size:

The following also were not requested. Although larger, they still don't fit the 60 article minimum. Should these also be converted back to upmerged templates?

Dawynn (talk) 12:36, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support according to proposal. --Kslotte (talk) 17:38, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Encoding stubs

Only the template exists under this category. Not sure why it was built. Indicates it's for articles about encryption. The main category for that article is Category:Cryptography. There is already a Category:Cryptography stubs. Might I suggest a redirect to Category:Cryptography stubs? Dawynn (talk) 12:57, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

UPmerge and delte. Waacstats (talk) 12:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge seems to have been done. Delete or redirect left. I propose delete. --Kslotte (talk) 17:43, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Algeria university stubs

Only the template exists under this category. Main category (Category:Universities and colleges in Algeria) only has one article. I suggest deleting the category for now, but we can keep the template as an upmerge for Category:Africa university stubs. Dawynn (talk) 12:57, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Upmerge and delete Waacstats (talk) 12:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{Afghanistan-cricket-bio-stub}}

No associated category created with it. Oddly, currently filtering into Category:English cricket biography stubs. Not entirely convinced this is necessary – there are currently only 22 Afghan players who would pass WP:CRIN, which is an application of WP:ATHLETE to the cricketing world, and WP:GNG. May not hurt to leave it as a stub template that upmerges in to Category:Cricket biography stubs, though. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 22:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, I didn't realise these templates were meant to go through a process to be created, and I also didn't notice I hadn't changed English to Afghan! Which is probably a good reason for me not to have created it in the first place.. There are likely to be more Afghan cricketers passing CRIN in the next few years (I suspect there are already more than 22, once first-class players are included, though I'm not sure about that.) Harrias talk 06:58, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Given there are likely to be more, and the set up at Category:Cricket biography stubs; I'd also propose the creation of Category:Afghan cricket biography stubs. If not, then for the time being, an upmerge would suffice, along with Category:Afghan people stubs. Harrias talk 07:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge to Category:Cricket biography stubs and Category:Afghan people stubs atleast until we get 60. Waacstats (talk) 14:58, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Anglican cathedral stubs

No stub template. Looks like parent Category:Anglican cathedrals may have enough (72 articles came up in my initial query, but not all may rank as "stubs") for a category. Only 8 articles in this category right now. Existing approved stub category Category:Anglican church stubs is about mid-sized (315 articles). I would personally opt for closing down this category and moving the articles found here to Category:Anglican church stubs. Dawynn (talk) 01:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

although we have a similar category for RC i think this would be better upmerged to anglican church stubs if we had a template. As it is delete. Waacstats (talk) 15:00, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

September 2010

Category:North East Scotland stubs

No direct stub template; however, it currently houses 3 upmerged stub templates, none of which are used enough to justify their own categories. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:26, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{Acanthizidae-stub}}/Category:Acanthizidae stubs

Created in 2008, currently 52 artiucles. I recommend keeping for now. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:54, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

July 2010

{{ClevelandNeighborhood}}

Currently transcluded on 11 pages. Doesn't have an associated category; places tagged pages in Category:Cleveland, Ohio (which is unhelpful, because most of them are already in a subcategory of that). —Paul A (talk) 03:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{China-lit-stub}}

I created this template (based on {{Japan-lit-stub}}) and populated the category before realising the extent of the bureaucratic process involved in stub sorting. Anyway, here it is, it has 32 articles so far, and will surely have many more as Wikipedia covers more than the basics of Chinese literature, which is an enormous field. Inductiveload (talk) 01:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

May 2010

{{Algeria-garden-stub}} / Category:Algerian garden stubs

Found this with just the template. No articles. There is no permanent category, so hard to tell how many articles could be listed here. I have no problem with the names, but would like to see this category populated, if it wants to stick around. Dawynn (talk) 14:56, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{AfroCaribbean-stub}} / Category:Afro Caribbean stubs

Found this with just the template. No articles. No indication of the intention for this category. I would choose deleting this category. Dawynn (talk) 11:58, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{English-engineer-stub}} / Category:English engineer stubs

Found this with one article listed in the underpopulated list. Started adding to it, when I found that there is already a well-populated Category:United Kingdom engineer stubs. The UK category is not really needing a split yet, so I would propose deleting this category and template altogether, and moving all articles over to {{UK-engineer-stub}}. Dawynn (talk) 10:37, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Had further thoughts on this. There is a Category:English engineers, so no reason that this one can't exist. I was able to find enough articles (I chose to stop after finding 60 -- there's several more). But, following convention, should the template be {{England-engineer-stub}}? Dawynn (talk) 11:52, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

April 2010

{{TV-Production-Company-Stub}} / Category:Television production company stubs

Oops--I made this before I proposed it...anyway, I just created it and it is similar to the {{Film-company-stub}} but is used for television production companies rather than film companies. This may seem like a very small difference, but I thought it was worth creating. So far, after I created it, I have only added it to one page, but I would imagine there are several pages I would be able to add it to. If it gets deleted, it is understandable, but just wanted to give y'all a heads up before you discovered it yourselves. Sorry about this! --Donatrip (talk) 16:52, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

March 2010

{{Samsung-mobile-stub}} / Category:Samsung phone stubs

Found this in Wikipedia:Database reports/Uncategorized categories. Currently has 101 articles. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:36, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Although I'm not sure the articles should exist, while they do I would rather them be in this category than flooding another category. Waacstats (talk) 09:02, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{Canada-mag-stub}} / Category:Canada magazine stubs

Found this as I was reviewing the magazine categories again. There are 55 articles at this point, and I'm sure more could be found. I personally would argue that Category:Canadian magazine stubs would be a better category title. Dawynn (talk) 18:57, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

support rename. Waacstats (talk) 08:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:OCriverstub / Category:Orange County river stubs

Template not named properly, overall likely too small in scope. –xenotalk 19:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Take to SFD and delete Waacstats (talk) 08:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

February 2010

Category:African cycling biography stubs

Category created for {{Africa-cycling-bio-stub}}, {{SouthAfrica-cycling-bio-stub}} and {{Zimbabwe-cycling-bio-stub}}. Only 24 articles in the category, of which just under half have been prodded. SeveroTC 18:54, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think this could be deleted and the articles merged back into the cycling biogrpahy stub category. Waacstats (talk) 13:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please review: Upmerged template already existed ({{LGBT-mag-stub}}), found 60 articles to put under it, found that there was already a category Category:LGBT-related magazines. So, I created the stub category. Dawynn (talk) 13:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure the -related needs to be in there but seem to think that one of the other LGBT cats is the same. Waacstats (talk) 13:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I used related purely to keep with the parent category. Since Category:LGBT-related magazines, then Category:LGBT-related magazine stubs. Dawynn (talk) 13:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Found these on the list of existing stubs that are on the "to be vetted" list. Please advise whether acceptable.

Biographies

Companies

Software

Dawynn (talk) 11:22, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think we can keep any category with over 50 articles and the upmerged templates, the rest could probably do with some one going through the categories and seeing what can get up close to 60 and deleting what can't. Waacstats (talk) 16:30, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

January 2010

Category:2010s indie pop album stubs

I found this one in the list of uncategorised categories, along with its associated template Template:Pop-album-stub (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). It appears to be an excessively narrow division of Category:Pop album stubs. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

December 2009

Category:Bacon stubs

I didn't know that there had to be a discussion before a stub was created so I created this stub category yesterday. I was suggested by a "busybody" that I should inform you of its creation. I however believe that it is a very useful sub-category of meat stubs, with 23 entries included when I last checked and with the Bacon WikiCup already running it is very likely to serve a good purpose for a lot more stubs within the relevant range. (I've already added a lot of articles with no stub category to it and have changed the meat stubs template on a few articles to the more specific bacon stub category. Do with this template what you will (I understand now that it should've been proposed before it was created) but I stronly believe it will be a very helpful subcategory within the meat stubs category.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 04:11, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

23 is a very small number for a new stub category - the usual threshold before the creation of a category is 60 existing stubs. If this gets to 60 soon, then it may be worth keeping, if not, then the likely outcome is to upmerge the template to have it point to Category:Meat stubs. BTW, referring to someone who suggests you actually follow WP guidelines and policies as a "busybody" isn't going to gain you many friends! Grutness...wha? 23:41, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, the "busybody" comment was in humourous repsonse to this.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:41, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, the busybody in question referred to herself somewhat tongue-in-cheek that way initially (and is now going to stop referring to herself in the third person). LadyofShalott 06:53, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
For more on-topic comment... I wonder about upmerging bacon-stub to something along the lines of pork-stub. Would that make the target number of 60? (I really am asking I don't know the answer to that.) LadyofShalott 06:55, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
{{Pork-stub}}/Category:Pork stubs would be a more widely-scoped stub type, and this suggests there would be over 60 articles. Best thing to do from here would be to take this to WP:SFD and mention this discussion there, asking that Category:Bacon stubs be deleted and the template upmerged into a new Category:Pork stubs, (with either the addition of a {{Pork-stub}} or the renaming of {{Bacon-stub}} to {{Pork-stub}}. Grutness...wha? 22:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I'll take it to SFD now. Should be (hopefully) pretty straightforward. Taken o SFD for renaming/upscoping. Grutness...wha? 04:34, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Khmer singer stubs

Stub category that seems oddly named, not big enough, and it is used directly on articles and not with a template. Borgarde (talk) 00:45, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think this one should probably go straight to SFD. You've mentioned several problems with it - another is that splitting singers by language is a bad precedent to have. Singers are usually split by nationality, and many singers can sing in multiple languages. A Cambodia-singer-stub would be fine (probably upmerged), but not this. Grutness...wha? 05:16, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Taken to SFD.Borgarde (talk) 07:42, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:South Ossetia geography stubs/{{South Ossetia-geo-stub}}

Unproposed, only one page in category, category is malformed. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template is misnamed too (should be at SouthOssetia-geo-stub). But if you check the SFD for Ossetia-geo-stub you'll see the reasoning behind it. It should have been proposed though - to save us the work of having to fix it up :/ Grutness...wha? 22:17, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:India-agri-stub

I noticed this one because it was using a non-standard category Category:Agriculture in India. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:49, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Newly discovered, November 2009

{{AIADMK-politician-stub}}/Category:AIADMK politician stubs and {{DMK-politician-stub}}/Category:Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam politician stubs

Two new stub types for Indian politicians, though only one of the four parts gives any indication of that by its name. Both categories are small, though one is fairly close to threshold - the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam one may need to be upmerged, however. And something - anything! -needs to be done with the names, even if only adding "-India-" to both templates and changing the DMK in the second template to something a little less ambiguous. Grutness...wha? 01:27, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion is also relevant to any renaming which may be needed. Grutness...wha? 01:37, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Quite honestly, when everything else in Wikipedia is create and then discuss/delete, I did not expect stub type creations to be any different. However, now that I know this, I'll bring the next few here before creating. At this point there are over 100 between 200-400 stubs each for these two stub types, they just haven't been categorized yet. Also, User:CarTick, User:Sodabottle and I expect to create at least another 100 each over the next two to four weeks for these two stub types. As far as the naming goes, I kept it consistent with {{INC-politician-stub}} and {{BJP-politician-stub}} which belong to the same Indian politician stub category. -SpacemanSpiff 01:54, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Check the section of WP:BOLD which relates to templates and categories. This will give you some reasons for the more circumspect nature of creation of stub types. More reasons can be found at User:Grutness/Stub rationales. As far as the nameing is concernedf, the BJP in particular is widely known wirldwide as being a major indian political party, as is the INC (though less so, perhaps). I doubt you'd have the same level of worldwide recognition for either DMK or AIADMK. Grutness...wha? 09:17, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
many of the politicians from Category:Tamil Nadu politicians will belong to either ADMK or DMK, two main political parties in Tamil Nadu. useful stub as far as I am concerned. --CarTick 05:20, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I never said that the aren't useful stub types. All I've said is that the names which have been used for the templates and one of the categories are non-standard, and if kept they will need to be changed; and that neither of the categories is yet up to the point where they should have been created. If they reach the threshold for stub categories (60 existing stubs), then only the names will be a problem. But these problems could have been overcome far more easily and with less work all round if the stub types had been proposed in the first place. Grutness...wha? 09:17, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And AIADMKazhagam-politician-stub? I could go with those, though I'm not sure about others in WP:WSS. Grutness...wha? 18:35, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I doubt that such long an acronym would exist elsewhere, but I could live with {{AIADMKazhagam-politician-stub}}. While I understand the logic behind attaching India, the concern I have is that both these parties have a presence restricted to only Tamil Nadu and Puduchery, and they aren't "national" parties per se. But if it is preferred to make it {{India-DMK-politician-stub}} or {{DMKIndia-politician-stub}}, I haven't any objection to that either -SpacemanSpiff 18:46, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
India-DMK-politician-stub would be the other way to go (as in {{Australia-Labor-politician-stub}}, for example). As long as they're the only parties of those names in India, it would still make sense, whether they're regional or not. It's probably less urgent for these parties than for the Australian one and others like it, because as far as WP articles are concerned, DMK is the abbreviation for only one political party worldwide. It isn't impossible that there are others, thopugh, and it's certainly not an abbreviation that is likely to mean much to anyone who doesn't know about Indian politics. Grutness...wha? 23:12, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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