Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mixed Set Programming

Mixed Set Programming

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No independent secondary sources to establish notability as required by WP:GNG. A search suggests independent sources may not exist. The only contributors to the article are WP:SPAs. Msnicki (talk) 13:32, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natural Constraint Language seems to be closely related. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:32, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, it makes sense to discuss the two together. I think all the comments made so far at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natural Constraint Language apply to Mixed Set Programming also. Jowa fan (talk) 07:04, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I don't see independent coverage. FuFoFuEd (talk) 10:35, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The page POEM (software) should also be included in this discussion. Jowa fan (talk) 12:15, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that one out also. I've nominated it for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/POEM (software). Msnicki (talk) 14:01, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not delete the article "Mixed Set Programming" or merge it into "Natural Constraint Language" because MSP is an even more generic and more abstract scientific concept than NCL. Contributions are welcome. MSP is a very advanced subject to be studied. MSP allows a mathematician to formulate complex problems in a simplified form of mathematical logic (first-order logic, set theoretic reasoning, date/time reasoning, etc.). In this sense, it is a scientific pearl. If so advanced a technology can be applied in industry, it is great. Other words to add are: the concepts of "Mixed Set Programming" and "Natural Constraint Language" are purely scientific concepts, while "POEM" is an industrialized system of the NCL language. Thanks for your understanding. SophiePaul (talk) 16:16, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I understand your enthusiasm, but in an AfD, it's about notability as established by independent secondary sources, not whether this is important material WP:VALINFO or about a new technology that will soon be important WP:ATA#CRYSTAL. That said, you may be able to clear the bar as sources are found. I don't mind changing my WP:!VOTE if that happens. Msnicki (talk) 16:40, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

With some others, I have been trying my best to improve according to your comments. In the page of "POEM", the book of Li is about logistics optimization modules developed using POEM. In the page of "Natural Constraint Language", the 3rd and 4th (independent) related works cite Dr Zhou's work and they target similar objectives. MSP is extremely complex and the research work on it is terribly hard. It involves techniques in different fields: operations research (combinatorial optimization/complexity theory/algorithm), logic programming (first-order logic/numerical reasoning/naive set theory), ... SophiePaul (talk) 10:30, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Poorly written article about apparently non-notable academic work. —Ruud 20:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not delete I think Wikipedia's requirements for these articles have been met. I have followed the above advices to do necessary improvement by adding secondary sources found by Google search. If anything else still need to be done, please let me know. SophiePaul (talk) 10:30, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Sources have been added since the article was listed. Jowa fan (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:19, 14 June 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- And which of those are the significant independent coverage? FuFoFuEd (talk) 07:37, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]