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Statement of the dispute

Bugapi (talk · contribs) is a new editor who became enranged when their first article was first proposed for deletion and then brought to a deletion discussion. This editors conduct is unacceptable for Wikipedia, both in terms of content-building and general interaction with other editors. He/she has persistently failed to acknowledge and address issues raised by other editors with this article, choosing instead a defensive and often aggressive ad hominem commenting and editing approach both in the AFD in question and the talk pages of editors involved in the dispute. 4 users have tried without success to resolve this.

Desired outcome

  1. Bugapi will focus on positive contributions instead of disrupting Wikipedia
  2. Bugapi will assume good faith
  3. Bugapi will provide ample evidence of any accusations directed at other editors of inappropriate editing or misuse of privileged tools.
  4. Bugapi will start commenting in a more civil way, and will stop attacking other editors.
  5. Bugapi will abide by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and will consider other editors and administrators advice.

Description

This editor has been active for only a few days but has caused quite a stir refusing to stand down on his assertions of notability of an article he created in the face of multiple editors who have repeatedly Bugapi has wrongly accused others of vandalism, refuses to assume good faith or give others the benefit of doubt, accused other editors of malice, repeats the same arguments and accusations without convincing others, ignores or refuses to answer and often mocks good faith questions from other editors.

Additionally, The relative ease and familiarity with signing posts and knowledge of hot button wikipedia issues such as vandalism and refactoring comments as well as the administrative tools such as Twinkle makes me wonder if this is the sockpuppet (another editor has initiated a sockpuppet investigation here) of a more experienced editor. Bugapi created G-WAN (Web server) which was proposed for deletion. That prod was challenged without comment by 83.76.178.51 (talk · contribs) which all indications are to be Bugapi logged out of his/her account. Bugapi left a lengthy note calling the proposed deletion "vandalism". Appeared to be a new user who was unfamiliar with Wikipedia's notability and sourcing guidelines and policies but took a very angry very agressive approach to debate. Attempts to guide Bugapi to more constructive editing and a more civil exchange in both the AFD and on other editors talk pages met with more accusations of impropriety by other editors, rants about other articles

Evidence of disputed behavior

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  1. wrongly accused others of vandalism: [1], [2], [3]
  2. baseless accusations of misuse of rollback and non-administrator tools: [4] (any use of tools to prod and then AFD his/her article is seen as a misuse of these tools by this editor).
  3. baseless implication of misuse of administer tools [5]
  4. accused other editors of malice: [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11]
  5. misquoting other editors: (quote: [12], original: [13])
  6. refusal to answer good faith questions from other editors : [14], [15], [16]
  7. baseless claims of censorship: [17] and the AFD: [18], [19], [20], [21],
  8. External canvassing for AFD votes: [22]

Applicable policies and guidelines

  1. WP:Assume good faith
  2. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to discuss an AfD
  3. WP:OTHERSTUFF
  4. WP:Ownership of articles
  5. Wikipedia:Disruptive editing
  6. Wikipedia:No personal attacks
  7. Wikipedia:Canvassing

Evidence of trying to resolve the dispute

(Provide diffs of the comments. As with anywhere else on this RfC/U, links to entire articles aren't helpful unless the editor created the entire article. Edit histories also aren't helpful as they change as new edits are performed.) Five editors have attempted to guide this editor towards applicable Wikipedia policies and guidelines and into more constructive contributions both in the AFD in question and on the user's talk page.

Attempts by RadioFan

  1. tried to steer the discussion back on course and help this user understand the seriousness of accusing other editors of vandalism, referral to Wikipedia guidelines on reliable sources, primary sources, the AFD process, and point by point addressing of concerns with existing references: [23], [24]
  2. Reminder to assume good faith [25]
  3. Reminders to sign comments:[26]
  4. 3rd party defense of editing this user took issue with: [27], [28]
  5. explanation notability requires more than existence [29]


Attempts by Tom Morris

  1. attempted to calm this user down on Bugapi's talk page and cautioned against personal attacks [30]
  2. tried to clarifiy WP:N and provided a description of how the dictionary definition of the word "notable" doesn't apply to AFD. [31]

Attempts by Syrthiss

  1. Syrthiss (talk · contribs) attempted to reword WP:V in a more accesible way and steer the discussion back on track. [32]
  2. attempted presenting WP:SELFPUBLISHED in clearer terms [33]
  3. 3rd party defense of editing bugapi took issue with: [34]

Attempts by MrOllie

  1. tried to drive Bugapi toward's Wikipedia's Notability guidelines explaining why dictionary definitions are the word "notability" are not applicable in an AFD. [35], [36]
  2. explained WP:OTHERSTUFF [37]

Attempts by Kuru

  1. explanation of why a red link to the article in question was removed (and corrected) from a related list. [38]

Attempts by Strikerforce

  1. again explained why WP:OTHERSTUFF isn't appropriate for the discussion. [39]
  2. cautioned against using multiple IP addresses when contributing to an AFD. [40]
  3. Reminders to sign comments: [41]
  4. Addressing vandalism claims: [42]

Attempts by certifier name

Other attempts

Evidence of failing to resolve the dispute

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  1. ignoring wikipedia policy and guidelines insisting their views takes precedence: [43], [44], [45], [46], [47], [48], [49]
  2. mocking editors attempts to resolve the dispoute: [50], [51], [52], [53], [54], [55], [56]
  3. continues to repeat the same arguments and accusations: [57], [58], [59], [60], [61], [62], [63]
  4. continues to refuse assume good faith, even mocks the suggestion: [64], [65]
  5. Has moved to hopping between anonymous IP's in an attempt to either duck detection. While 2 are from the same subnet which would normally indicate an innocent mistake by a new editor, the rest are from outside that domain to ISPs in multiple countries, casting multiple !votes from these various users:

Users certifying the basis for this dispute

{Users who tried and failed to resolve the dispute}

  1. --RadioFan (talk) 16:54, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Tom Morris (talk) 18:44, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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