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Old discussion(s)

This article needs help. In particular, Im not happy about the discussion of specific programs like The Rosetta Stone. Sounds too much like an advertisement. Thelmadatter 15:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)Thelmadatter[reply]

I plan to rewrite this article as soon as I find the time to sit down and sort thru this mess! Thelmadatter 16:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)Thelmadatter[reply]

This does need serious work. It is really to the point that mere additions or revisions will not help...It really needs to be redone from scratch. Not only are there too many blatant software and website promotions, but also too many in-text links (that is what link at the end of wikipedia entries are for). It also seems like this is primarily an attempt at writing the history of CALL in the UK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.208.176.36 (talk) 05:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Working

Im working right now on the rewrite... Hope to get it up next week. Thelmadatter (talk) 17:22, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Still working.. got the research and a very rough draft done but since I dont have Internet connection at home (why pay when you have it free at work? hee hee) I wont put it up until it is near-perfect. Thelmadatter (talk) 17:11, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK the rewrite is up.... I admit I need to do a little more work on the references but the problematic ones are locked up in my office until Jan 3. Meanwhile, I thought I should get this up, in case anyone wants to start tweaking it.Thelmadatter (talk) 20:24, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Too much RPG info

Under the section "Technologies used in CALL instruction," I noticed that there is way too much irrelevant information about RPG's. If I had read that section alone without knowing what this article is about, I would have thought it was an article about RPG's. There's a lot of completely irrelevant information about the different kinds of RPG's that exist, as well as their different functions, how characters interact with each other, etc. Nowhere is a connection made with computer-assisted language learning or computer-mediated learning. Even if a connection were made, I don't think any of the RPG's mentioned would be particularly effective for learning another language. It would be good if someone who's experienced in editing articles (I'm not experienced enough to trust myself to do a good job) could delete the unnecessary information and substitute something more relevant -- such as information about websites that are predominantly used or created for the purpose of computer mediated learning. Thanks. 24.150.196.215 (talk) 02:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The external links have been filled with several commercial, and frankly poor quality, links. Skydive23 (talk) 22:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vocabulary Learning

Though mentions of CALL for vocabulary learning only appears twice in this article, if we scroll down to examples of CALL, we find that about half of them are focused on vocabulary learning. Can anyone explain this discrepancy to me? I suspect that the editors of this page are more interested in the academic version of CALL, so I'd like to see it become more balanced without becoming a commercial for commercial CALL. Furthermore, the link from flashcard suggests that CALL has picked up on things like the Leitner study method. Twocs (talk) 16:27, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First paragraph

What the hell is this? I thought linguists would be writing this page, but the first paragraph is almost unreadable. 192.198.151.37 (talk) 09:07, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Total rewrite in progress, November 2010

From Graham Davies, November 2010

I hadn't looked closely at this article for a couple of years - sometime back in 2008. In the meantime it had got into a dreadful mess - too many cooks. The only way it can be rescued is to rewrite it from scratch. I am now in the course of doing this. Some of the existing material can be recycled, but a lot of it is irrelevant and out of date. I am taking on board some of the comments that other contributors have made to this page. It should not take me more than 2-3 weeks to knock this article into shape.

GroovyGuzi —Preceding undated comment added 16:58, 25 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Would have been nice if you worked on the article in your sandbox instead. Committing a mangled outline that only serves to remind yourself of what you are planning to write is not ideal. 75.71.151.179 (talk) 20:54, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree and I've reverted the changes. It's not acceptable to have sections that are obviously incomplete and written as such. ElKevbo (talk) 04:32, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, will do. Will draft the complete article offline first. The article is in desperate need of revision. It contains inaccuracies, blatant advertising (Rosetta Stone) and is not a reflection of the current state of CALL. GroovyGuzi