Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/PC78-bot
Operator: PC78 (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 15:40, Friday October 8, 2010 (UTC)
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Function overview: List building with AWB
Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): User talk:Xeno#Bot access for AWB?
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Function details: This account is required for the sole purpose of building lists on AWB with the nolimits plugin. The account would not be used for editing.
Discussion
Sorry, if I am missing something, but doesn't apihighlimits merely raise the "up to 500" limit to "up to 5000"? NoLimits plugin is an AWB specific list building tool. I am guessing it does multiple queries in any case, as even setting limit=max has never gotten me past 5000. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 15:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how to answer you. As I've been told, the nolimits plugin removes the 25000 limit when building lists from very large categories or highly transcluded templates, and the plugin is restricted to admins and bots (though I don't personally see why it shouldn't be made more widely available). Since I'm not an admin, it is for this reason that I need the bot account. This is the course of action I was recommended in the discussion linked above. PC78 (talk) 16:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I read that, but noone made clear the distinction between plug-in limits and actual API limits. So this is merely so that AWB allows you to use the NoLimits plug-in. I have no objections either way, was just wondering, have fun! — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 16:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Someone else would have to comment on the API limits, since that is some way over my head. :) But yes, this is merely so I can use AWB with the NoLimits plugin. I don't need the account for editing, assuming that this would require further approval. PC78 (talk) 16:14, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Quick comment, (have to run) AWB devs placed a limit to the number of request AWB will do, in order to prevent server stress. the default API query is 500 for most items. with highlimits its 5000. (a factor of 10). So to get 25,000 results the average user must make 50 requests. however with highlimits thats down to 5. Which is a lot less stress on the servers. ΔT The only constant 16:21, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- With respect to the limits that have been put in place, they do nontheless impact on the usefulness of AWB, and occasional use by a single user (i.e. me) surely won't place much additional stress on the server. I don't see why access shouldn't be granted on request to trusted users who have need for it. PC78 (talk) 16:40, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Quick comment, (have to run) AWB devs placed a limit to the number of request AWB will do, in order to prevent server stress. the default API query is 500 for most items. with highlimits its 5000. (a factor of 10). So to get 25,000 results the average user must make 50 requests. however with highlimits thats down to 5. Which is a lot less stress on the servers. ΔT The only constant 16:21, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Someone else would have to comment on the API limits, since that is some way over my head. :) But yes, this is merely so I can use AWB with the NoLimits plugin. I don't need the account for editing, assuming that this would require further approval. PC78 (talk) 16:14, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
rev 7235 (i.e. NoLimits 1.3.2.0) allows use of NoLimitsPlugins if the user has the "apihighlimits" right. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:16, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- I do not see a clear reason for this bot, and this is not the place to debate the appropriateness of limits. Please supply at least one example of how this would help the encyclopedia. Johnuniq (talk) 00:52, 9 October 2010 (UTC)