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Editors/admin New info about jailbreak: blackra1n has been revealed http://iphonejtag.blogspot.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forgotten44 (talk • contribs) 05:45, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is the term 'jailbreak' only applicable for iPhones?

no it is branched out among many other mobile/electronic gaming devices but most users of jail-broken ipods consider "jailbreaking" exclusively an ipod touch/phone term —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesarte (talk • contribs) 05:37, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.217.96 (talk) 14:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believe so because for all other mobile devices, its unlocking. Im guessing its because with normal phones you can add software and stuff to it, where with an iPhone, you cant Sophie ^(Talk) 14:40, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Conjugation

"Other jailbreaks include: 1.1.1 [1] brought the 1 step jailbreak, exploiting a tiff vulnerability in mobile safari, no computer required 1.1.2 upgrade from a "Octoprep'd" 1.1.1 jailbreak 1.1.3 multiple ways occurred,"

What on earth does this sentence mean?

jailbreak is a word, why in hell is everyone trying to conjugate it??

"jailbreak" - in this sense has been converted to a noun this sentence refers to "jailbreaks" plural noun followed by an enumeration of them including what vulnerability was used to effect the "jailbreak"

Legality

I'd like this article to explain the legal status of jailbreaking in various jurisdictions. In some jurisdictions, I think it would probably constitute breach of contract. zazpot (talk) 13:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it could really be a breach of contract; or at least they can't sue over it since I don't know how Apple would be able to prove any damages. --71.236.164.204 (talk) 08:25, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As of the time this post is written, Jailbreaking an iPod is legal. Apple is striving to make jailbreaking illegal. Bgs022 Questions? Comments? 21:54, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's actually not true, at least in the US. It would be more accurate to say that currently, jailbreaking is probably illegal, but the EFF is trying to make it legal. IANAL, but I've added a little bit to the article detailing what appears to be the current status in the US (I'm not sure about other countries, though). in all reality jailbreaking is allowable to get normally bought apps and beable to download for free. -- Foogod (talk) 21:59, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's your own hardware and you can do whatever you want with it, However Apple is claiming that jailbreak apps are modified versions of Apple's software=copyrights infringing, and Apple file this claim, but i think it's fair reverse engineering used in way that can't harm the company and thus legal , so unless legal authority say it's illegal ...it's 100% legal. Zayani (talk • contribs) 09:43, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it probably depends from the specific country laws.--Dejudicibus (talk) 22:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In Germany, as long as there is no copyrighted code used, it would be completely legal. If it would use apple copyrighted code.. then it would just be illegal to distribute the jailbrake. The use still would be legal. And that no matter what apple would write in ther terms. Thats why no-cd cracks are legal to use in germany. Well as long as you really got a legal Copy of that Game. On the other hand its illegal to spread those no-cd cracks.--95.88.227.44 (talk) 07:49, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

I propose we merge iPhone Dev Team into this article. Realistically speaking, once you cut out all the unsourced and trivial info (the list of devs, too-detailed prose on what version jailbreaks what and what exploit it uses in order to do it), the resulting article is nearly a copy of this article. I would suggest a small paragraph about the iPhone Dev Team but everything that the separate article does, this article does better. hbdragon88 (talk) 23:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly disagree. Merging the iPhone Dev Team with the main jailbreaking page would almost be like crediting jailbreaking solely to them. They definitely are a leader in jailbreaking iPhones but aren't synonymous with jailbreaking.(talk) 23:38, 6 July 2009 (PCT)

No merge. I agree with Veda13; the iPhone Dev Team isn't the only group. 69.232.197.130 (talk) 01:23, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

QuickFreedom

Why is this included? If we include this we might as well include all programs capable of jailbreak, of which there are hundreds. Isn't it easier to stick to iPhone Dev Team methods in this article, or just make a comparison page and move this off completely? arienh4^(Talk) 15:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, the dev team aren't the be all and end all of jailbreaking. Most notably purplera1n, the 3GS jailbreak is not a dev team jailbreak. Secondly, at the start of iPod 2G jailbreaking, QuickFreedom was the program most people actually used. 84.203.233.253 (talk) 00:26, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They may not be, but all of their claims are backed by sources. Source up some Endgadget, etc. about other programs, and it will stay in the article. hbdragon88 (talk) 02:43, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced but factually correct note: QuickFreedom was just a GUI combining xpwn, the Dev Team's open source suite of jailbreak related utilities with iPod touch specific patches provided by the iPhone Dev Team based on instructions given by an iPhone Dev Team member. The only thing it added was a bit of batch automation I'm afraid. Purplera1n, one of the two jailbreaking tools for 3gs, indeed was not created by the group, but they have their own solution for 3gs. --71.236.164.204 (talk) 10:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Notability criteria for including in Software Used

"Quick Freedom" is just a GUI wrapper for xpwn along with patches provided by the dev team. Other tools also take xpwn and package it with those same patches to make similar tools with varying degrees of popularity and ease-of-use: redtool, unofficialsn0w, and some others. This class of jailbreaks are all very similar and a decision should be made whether to include all of them or to include none of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.236.164.204 (talk) 02:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

greenp0ison

I've tagged greenp0ison for clarification as, whilst it can be assumed it is a piece of jailbreaking software, the article does little to expand upon what it is, what model of iPhone/iPod or what version of the OS it will target. ^Alex J _Fox (Talk) (Contribs) 21:25, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Greenpois0n, a jailbreak program not unlike PwnageTool is currently in development, but is been held back so that Apple can't patch the exploit used before the iPhone 4G. Greenpois0n uses a different type of jailbreak than any other program before it, so it should be in business for some time before Apple patches the exploit up.

This seems a little "oh yay sucks for apple" and really biased. can anyone un-biase [?] this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by FeralitYzERO (talk • contribs) 00:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

greenpoison and geohots 3.1 untethered jailbreaks did not release on 4/3 like it was stated on the jailbreak (iphone os) wikipedia page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.194.190 (talk) 21:55, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ipod touch 3g 8GB?

why is there an ipod touch 3g 8gb in the device list when it is not available as the current ipod touch 3g line up only consists of 32/64gb models. the current ipod touch 8gb is the 2nd generation as it is to be sold alongside the 3g models Mikyt90 (talk) 13:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

beacuuse you can jailbreak it i jailbroke my 3g 8gb duhhh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.235.84.149 (talk) 14:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And still you can buy an 3G with 8GB. Maybee because there is no official 3G. Even the 32GB Models are 2G if you wanna go that way. --95.88.227.44 (talk) 07:51, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is no 3G 8GB you probably have one of the newer second generation 8gb MC models. Apple released those with iOS3 even though they have the same hardware as the iPod Touch 2g. --Matthew Bauer (talk) 17:34, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please link George Hotz name to his page

{{Editsemiprotected}} Because there was no link I didn't think he had a page on wikipedia. Had to find it through google Done - Rjd0060 (talk) 21:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blackra1n

One place on the wiki says Blackra1n can be used with 3.1.3 firmware. Another place says 3.1.2 only. Which is the correct one? My iPod is 1st gen.--NakiBest (talk) 17:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Geohot said he wasn't working on a jailbreak for 3.1.3, so I wouldn't try Blackra1n. I read that Dev Team said that Redsn0w 0.9.4 would let you jailbreak older devices, including iPod Touch 1g, running 3.1.3. Oh, and also Sn0wbreeze. --WikiDonn (talk) 06:30, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I used Redsn0w 0.9.4 and it jailbroke fine. NakiBest (talk) 20:09, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

{{editsemiprotected}} Add information LollerOfHell (talk) 14:15, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a very useful description. --JokerXtreme (talk) 14:58, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)Could you be a little more specific, I'm not too sure what exactly you want added to the article. Feel free to restore the semiprotected tag after adding more detail. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 224° 54' 45" NET 14:59, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Information Error

In the list of firmware, it says that " 3.1 - 3.1.2 iPhone 3GS (with iBoot-359.3.2) and iPod Touch 3rd generation - Tethered (Device must be re-jailbroken every time it is restarted.)". This is incorrect, as you don't need to re-jailbreak on these models. You just need to use blackra1n to boot your iDevice by connecting it to your computer, and clicking "make it ra1n" in the blackra1n PC/Mac interface. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bodman456 (talk • contribs) 03:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

True. There are many problems with the recently added parts to the history section. I will edit the section to correct as many of the errors as I can. --WikiDonn (talk) 03:28, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 95.244.166.229, 24 April 2010

Sorry, but ipod 3g models can't be downgraded unless you saved the ECID to cydia. But you can downgrade the current model with 8GB (MC model, but still 2g since it has the old iphone 3G similar hardware)

95.244.166.229 (talk) 19:37, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: per WP:Prod request. Spitfire19 (Talk) 20:37, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Spirit Jailbreak

We need a section for Spirit... if anyone can make one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.247.70.160 (talk) 20:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 84.72.16.29, 25 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} - Georg Hotz, not Georg Hots (typo) - put a link on his name there too - downgrade 3.1.3 to 3.1.2 with shsh: mention that shsh backup was necessary *before Feb 2010* otherwise not possible 84.72.16.29 (talk) 19:35, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: ~~I will change the typo, please clarity exactly what you think what is should say for the other part. -- Matthew Glennon (^T/_C\^D) 19:39, 25 May 2010 (UTC)~~[reply]
Not done: This is already the case? -- Matthew Glennon (^T/_C\^D) 19:44, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]