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Does anyone have any negatives to list about this framework? --RobKohr (talk) 23:46, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Given nobody uses it (apart from its author), probably not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.4.223.206 (talk) 08:55, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are currently 49014 messages on the mailing list. Some people seem to use it. --Stesch (talk) 08:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It must be said that although the software is GPL, there is no free manual, so your deemed to buy the manual to use it! --marc (talk) 17:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The book is free and online now (about 4 months ago). --Stesch (talk) 08:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A small correction - plenty of free documentation is available on the site, the 'official manual' which does cost money is a (useful, but not necessary) academic publishing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.86.78.92 (talk) 21:34, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reads like a corporate presentation

This article is in need of attention (ideally from a few people). Headings like "Some rare features", "Flexible views" and "Strong security" are inappropriate for an encyclopedia. It might well be a notable framework, but this does not seem like neutral secondary research to me; it seems like proselytism by the project's author(s). I don't know the subject very well myself, so I don't want to start editing and get things wrong, but I have added the 'advert' template in the hope someone else will clean it up.93.96.79.181 (talk) 19:58, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It seems you are shocked at some adjective

Notably "rare", "Flexible" and "Strong".

  • But those features are REALLY rare — if you are a web developer, you are have to know.
  • And those views are REALLY flexible — if you are a web developer, you are have to know, too.
  • And no other web application framework does so many and so hard against vulnerabilities as web2py.

I'm an independent web developer, previously a professional journalist and editor throughout one and half decades, started as software engineer more than two decades ago. More than 90% of this article written by me, on two different machines (so 2 IPs), one with an account named "Beerc". All facts checked by using the framework, and I know the subject moderately well, so my firm belief is that the things written are FACTS, not advertisement. My English is somewhat weak, and despite many reading, checking and re-reading probably the text has some linguistic errors (sorry).

I never wrote a single line of source into this software, and never have any closer connection to the developers of this project. (I asked the lead developer to check the article and repair any error he find — he suggested only minor corrections.) I'm only a happy user of web2py, but — despite the printed manual, which is pretty good — dissatisfied by the documentation, scattered over many places. Namely the "Installation, upgrade" section — which you qualified as "instructions, advice, or how-to content" — gives informations which missed for me badly when I searched guidelines for start. Then I found this Wikipedia page, and started to complement it with informations which was important for me, and — probably — for other developers who want to consider is this software worthwile to spend time to learn. "Installation, upgrade" section answers some questions:

  • is it really easy to start to use this software?
  • Okay, but how it runs on GAE? (Details however remains at two different places referenced in article.)

If you compare this article to many other articles about softwares, you can find that these details are fairly common. People are curious, sometimes inquisitive about details. Formerly I started to complement some other Wikipedia articles, but unfortunately realized that I had not enough time and interest in writing about those softwares. Not even about CherryPy, despite I use it fairly extensively. Web2py is the first, and — perhaps — Wing IDE will be the second, which sufficiently important for me to spend time to research, check and write about. I would be happy if people creates more detailed, more comprehensive, even meticulous articles even about lesser softwares. Somebody spend an hour to write, many will spare many hours later when searching informations...

So I'm recklessly and respectfully suggest to remove those stigmas, if possible. Or attack some statement, specifically - not the whole article, generally - , with facts against statements. Thanks.

Beerc (talk) 11:02, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removed "advert"

If someone has a problem with the tone of the article, let them come and discuss it here. We prefer contributors SIGN their mods to this document. I looked up the history of 93.86.78.92 and found only 4 contributions -- two were adding the "advert" description to this page and describing it here.

if you have something specific to offer, please come back and engage us here.

Joebarnhart (talk) 02:56, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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