Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Transwiki
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Starting
I've been thinking about making something like this for a while, and with this recent post from an editor over at the Wikia Annex, I've been inspired. It seems the Annex now lets non-admins preform article imports, allowing anyone to preform a transwiki. There is, of course, other hurdles, which is why a WikiProject for the effort is going to come in handy. -- Ned Scott 05:17, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
I haven't updated it in a while, but User:Ned Scott/transwiki is what I have so far for notes about my own experiences with the transwiki process. -- Ned Scott 05:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm stretched a bit thin on some tasks on Wikipedia, with my available free time (the amount I can reasonably give to Wikipedia, that is). But in the next two days I am off from work, and will be able to format the page some more, giving people an idea of what I had in mind. Feel free to beat me to it, and add any of your own ideas of how such a project might work. -- Ned Scott 04:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Discussion of interest
Please see here.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Requirements To Import To Another Wiki
taken from Template talk:Navbox
I ran into some trouble trying to figure out how to import the Navbox template into my own wiki. More importantly I spent more time that I should have needed to figuring it out. The core content can be easily exported and imported using the special pages. Remaining requirements (as I found) are two extensions, ImageMap and ParserFunctions. I think it would be beneficial to others if a small amount of documentation was written on How To Enable Navbox On Your Own Wiki or something of that nature. Here is a start
- goto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export
- enter the following into the text area (leave the Add pages from category input blank):
Template:Navbox MediaWiki:Common.js MediaWiki:Common.css
- make sure all three check boxes are checked
- hit export and save the xml file to disk
- goto the Special:Import page on your own wiki
- browse to the file and hit upload
- goto http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions and follow installation instructions
- goto http://www.chekmate.org/wiki/index.php/MW:_ImageMap_Extension and follow installation instructions
- head to the Template:Navbox/doc page on your own wiki to see that everything installed ok
144.223.18.102 (talk) 21:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Imagemap is actually not a required extension. Double check the code; it's only use is at Template:Navbox/doc, which has the transcluded template which shows the little red lock in the top right hand corner. Otherwise, it is not a necessity. --Izno (talk) 23:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I think this is a very important topic to document well. It seems that wikipedia is setting the standard for high-quality wiki content. It is difficult to achieve similar quality without all the Navbox/Infobox-y support. I don't know enough about how to get those things working in non-wikipedia wikis, but am eager to learn from this page as it grows. Keep up the good work.
154.5.119.172 (talk) 15:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- I resisted doing the export/import because I wanted to figure out why it wasn't working on my own. After about 2 and a half hours, I decided to just give in and follow your instructions (minus the ImageMap part). 30 seconds later everything was working great. *slaps forehead*. Thanks. EDIT: I take that back, I am having all kinds of javascript issues now. Keeps saying I am missing a ")". EDIT AGAIN: After finagling with it, I think that the export/import doesnt work well for Javascript files. It ended up missing a few carrots "<" and other minor formatting that at first I thought was poor programming but then I realized there is no possible way for the code to work without these things and it must have been lost in the export/import. That's my conclusion, I dont know if it's right. I fixed the error by copy/pasting the javascript from this article page. --72.181.103.129 (talk) 14:06, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
- This documentation is just what I have been looking for. I want to use Wikipedia templates on my own wiki, and before I read this section, I could not figure out how to do it. Many thanks for the explanation. However, maybe there is a more visible place to put this information, such as the FAQ page. Some rewriting may be needed. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:39, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Current Projects
FYI, I'm currently porting over Infobox to make it usable with outside media wikis.
Roadrunner (talk) 21:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
transwiki to Wikiversity
I have noticed that there are two template that serve the same purpose:
- {{TransWikiversity}} (adds to Category:Articles to be transwikied to Wikiversity)
- {{Copy to Wikiversity}} (adds to Category:Copy to Wikiversity)
I have proposed {{TransWikiversity}} and Category:Articles to be transwikied to Wikiversity for deletion as duplicates of the other other two. Then I tried to cleanup {{Copy to Wikiversity}} by adding to {{Deletiontools}} and {{Transwiki_maintenance}}. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions about criteria for the scope of wikiversity, or for help with the import of pages. --mikeu talk 15:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Wikis that lack ParserFunctions
Some wikis I know lack ParserFunctions, which makes nearly all the templates useless.
There is a fix, however; if, ifeq and switch, the three most important ParserFunctions, can be implemented in pure Wiki markup (with some caveats). If anyone wants, they can check that out at bluwiki:Template:If and bluwiki:Template:Ifeq. nneonneo talk 16:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Infobox Weirdness
A friend of mine is building a wiki for a small forum, and I've been helping out on the backend, borrowing a great deal from this project. I've been using Bluwiki's if| and ifeq| because the server host won't allow PHP5 and therefore we cannot use the PHP5 Wikimedia releases. It seems that, whenever an infobox is used on a page, leaving any possible datafield blank will cause a strange dashed box to appear around the space where the value would be. Does anyone have a clue why this would happen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.204.219.131 (talk) 02:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Reflist
{{Reflist}} requires some CSS from MediaWiki:Common.css. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there a place where we can list articles to be transwikied?
Thanks! --A NobodyMy talk 18:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Usually you can tag them with one of the templates listed here, which categorizes it to a transwiki category for users or bots to deal with. Hersfold (t/a/c) 21:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, those templates are for transwiking to another Wikimedia Wiki. The aim of this WikiProject is more for other wikis, such as those on fiction or some specialized field.
- And in that case, you don't need to tag an article to be transwikied on Wikipedia's side of things. Just contact an admin on the target Wiki and they should be able to import the file, or they'll often have cut-and-paste instructions (assuming the edit history on Wikipedia isn't going away). Wikia:Annex also has some easy to use transwiki tools. -- Ned Scott 02:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Relevant bot request filed
Hello, all. As an FYI, I've filed a BRFA for User:HersfoldBot at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/HersfoldBot. HersfoldBot is designed to automatically import articles from Wikipedia into the English Wiktionary by using the import function. This bot will require approval both here and at Wiktionary (in addition to getting an import or admin flag there), but I'm getting it approved here to check the log editing capabilities. Input is welcome and invited; since this would be working in your area, I'd especially appreciate any tips you can provide. Hersfold (t/a/c) 21:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- HersfoldBot is now fully approved and functioning. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Outdated
The Common.js and Common.css files that are provided here are heavily outdated now. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:18, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- A number of the templates are too, actually. I may add updating them to my to-do list. 「ダイノガイ千?!」(Dinoguy1000) 20:18, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
If no one beats me to it I'll try and update them in the next few days. I'm slowly becoming more active on wiki again. -- Ned Scott 06:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- Aah, nice to see you back around some, Ned. =) 「ダイノガイ千?!」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 07:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
interlanguage transwiki process?
Are there templates to suggest a non-English article (on English Wikipedia) be transwikied to the Wikipedia of the language in which it is written? 76.66.193.221 (talk) 06:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- Funnily enough, most everything in Category:Transwiki templates relates to one of images, transwikiing to specific sites, or already-fulfilled transwiki requests (again, usually to specific sites). A quick search doesn't seem to turn up anything like what you're asking for, either. Looks like a good target for a couple afternoons' worth cleaning up, generalizing and merging, and developing some new templates. Other than that, for now you'll just have to see if one of the specific templates is what you're looking for. 「ダイノガイ千?!」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 20:30, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
A template such as {{Transwiki to Wikipedia}} or {{Copy to Wikipedia}} or {{Interwiki to Wikipedia}} with a mandatory "|lang=" parameter... would be useful...
76.66.203.102 (talk) 06:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Subpages for related but non-affliated projects
In a discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Pages about non-affiliated projects in project space, it has been suggested that pages about projects that use Wikipedia material but are not officially affiliated with the Wikimedia Foundation could be organized as subpages of this project. Input from members of this project about the idea would be helpful. Please visit the discussion linked above if you would like to contribute to it. Thanks. --RL0919 (talk) 00:08, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Environmental, design or development topics etc, transwiki to Appropedia
Please note that any such page with some kind of value in environmental, design, appropriate technology, international development, architecture, urban planning issues etc etc, is welcome to be transwikied to Appropedia. This can help people be more understanding when their page is being deleted, if they see it's welcome and appreciated somewhere, but just not suitable for Wikipedia.
An Appropedia admin would be needed to do the import thing, in which case you could email me the XML at
chriswaterguy (at) appropedia · org.
Or if it's mainly the work of one person, they can just be credited in the edit summary, or the user could add it themselves.
Thanks. --Chriswaterguy talk 04:38, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Wikibooks backlog
Category:Copy to Wikibooks contains pages which have been tagged for over two years as requiring transwiki to Wikibooks. Pages like this one. There aren't really that many of these, and having a backlog of zero would be great: anyone fancy taking up the challenge? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:10, 11 December 2009 (UTC)